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COURT CLAIM FORM - help with my defence

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  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 25,090 Forumite
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    The judge will know all that you have written in paragraph 2 as it will be in the claim form.
     Furthermore, the defendant did not see or acknowledge any of the parking charge signs at Moto Reading West service station on date of the alleged event accused charge
    Better as above.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    £277 including capped court fees cannot be 2 PCNs and you can't get two PCNs issued on the same day.  The claim must be for one PCN at that level.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Trainerman
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    Your 3e makes it sound as if the defendant was the driver. Also, you did not go and look at a future date, you went and looked at a later date
    The pen is mightier than the sword ..... and I have many pens.
  • 1505grandad
    1505grandad Posts: 4,006 Forumite
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    A pedantic observation  -  on their website the name is shown as:-

    CP Plus Ltd t/a GroupNexus  -  interested as to how it is stated on the claim form.
  • mperky
    mperky Posts: 21 Forumite
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    Your 3e makes it sound as if the defendant was the driver. Also, you did not go and look at a future date, you went and looked at a later date
    Thats a good point thanks! How would you suggest I re-word that?

    Would the below edit be okay?

    3e) Furthermore if the defendant was indeed the driver, they did not see or acknowledge any of the parking charge signs at Moto Reading West service station on the date of the alleged event. Upon returning to the service station at a future date (12th May 2021) to investigate signage, there were only a few signs present, which were found to be unclear with text to small to read properly. In addition, signage was inadequately positioned for the defendant to legally accept CP PLUS offer, warranting a contract to be born under UK contract law.  

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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     Upon returning to the service station at a future date 
    The word 'returning' says you were the driver first time.

    I don't like this, sounds like you are hiding some knowledge: "Furthermore if the defendant was indeed the driver... "


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  • Trainerman
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    See the point by @Coupon-mad above.

    The most simple re word of that passage would be something like.

    The driver did not see any parking charge signs on that day. The defendant visited at a later date to check signage and found very few signs present, all being unclear with text too small to read .........and so on
    The pen is mightier than the sword ..... and I have many pens.
  • mperky
    mperky Posts: 21 Forumite
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    Thanks, everyone for your help. 

    Just checking, that the court email address to submit my defence is ccbc@justice.gov.uk? That's what I found online. 

    Also, do you think it's worth me posting it to court also, just to be safe? 

    Thanks so much
  • KeithP
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    edited 6 December 2022 at 11:07AM
    mperky said:
    Thanks, everyone for your help. 

    Just checking, that the court email address to submit my defence is ccbc@justice.gov.uk? That's what I found online. 

    Thanks so much
    That's not the email address we usually suggest.

    What's wrong with the address in the checklist in the opening post of the template Defence thread?


    mperky said:
    Also, do you think it's worth me posting it to court also, just to be safe? 
    No need.
  • mperky
    mperky Posts: 21 Forumite
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    Noted and thanks Keith, I will send it to the email suggested in your checklist.

    You advise:

    Also copy in the parking firm's legal team or solicitors, whose email you can find on any other thread about the same law firm.

    I have looked through related threads but can't find such an address. Don't suppose you know the email address for CP PLUS/Group Nexus? 

    Is it DCB legal as their previous email sent suggests below?

    Dear Sir/Madam,
     
    Thank you for your correspondence relating to your Parking Charge which has been passed to us by MOTO.

    We advise that you will need to contact our Collection Agent directly via the below:

    Telephone: 01606 611955 / 0203 4340433
    Website: https://dcblegal.co.uk/contact-us/defendant-response/
    Post: DCB Legal Ltd, Direct House, Greenwood Drive, Manor Park, Runcorn, Cheshire, WA7 1UG

    We are sorry we cannot enter into further correspondence in relation to this matter.
     
    Yours faithfully,

     

    CP Plus Ltd

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