Carers Allowance

tomtom256

GloverD said:

My husband is 72 years of age.   He gets the lowest payment of PIP.   He cannot get Attendance Allowance because he gets this.   It did not cover him getting a Blue Badge either, only awarded if you get the higher rate or DLA. His blue badge was only granted after he listed all his illnesses and all of the tablets he takes.  Since he was awarded PIP quite a few years ago, he has since been diagnosed with bowel cancer for the second time, atrial fibrilation and sclerosis of the liver due to portal hypertension and reflux.  

Any mobility award of PIP will award you a blue badge, I get standard rate mobility and automatically get accepted for a blue badge. I think you need to check with your local council who issues them. Unless you are in part of the UK that has different rules.
But then it would depend on whether he just gets care and/or mobility.
Sorry to hijack thread slightly.

poppy12345

tomtom256 said:

GloverD said:

My husband is 72 years of age.   He gets the lowest payment of PIP.   He cannot get Attendance Allowance because he gets this.   It did not cover him getting a Blue Badge either, only awarded if you get the higher rate or DLA. His blue badge was only granted after he listed all his illnesses and all of the tablets he takes.  Since he was awarded PIP quite a few years ago, he has since been diagnosed with bowel cancer for the second time, atrial fibrilation and sclerosis of the liver due to portal hypertension and reflux.  

Any mobility award of PIP will award you a blue badge, I get standard rate mobility and automatically get accepted for a blue badge.

That's not exactly correct, if you live in England. If you scored at least 8 points in the moving around part of mobility PIP then you automatically qualify for a BB.

If you scored 10 points in following and planning a journey because you're unable to undertake any journey because of OPD then you'll automatically be entitled to a BB.

If you have Enhanced mobility through following and planning a journey you will not automatically be entitled to a BB.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/help-for-disabled-travellers1/blue-badge-scheme/applying-for-a-blue-badge/

poppy12345

GloverD said:

My husband is 72 years of age.   He gets the lowest payment of PIP.   He cannot get Attendance Allowance because he gets this.   It did not cover him getting a Blue Badge either, only awarded if you get the higher rate or DLA. His blue badge was only granted after he listed all his illnesses and all of the tablets he takes.  Since he was awarded PIP quite a few years ago, he has since been diagnosed with bowel cancer for the second time, atrial fibrilation and sclerosis of the liver due to portal hypertension and reflux.  

That's not exactly correct either. He could claim AA but doing this would mean that once a decision is made on the AA his PIP would then end. There's no mobility part to AA but once you reach state pension age if he doesn't have a mobility award then he won't be able to claim this now, or if he has standard mobility he won't be able to claim Enhanced mobility.

Spoonie_Turtle

I'm slightly confused that nobody has mentioned this, can he not be reassessed for PIP but with the acknowledgement that any mobility award cannot be increased?  So if his daily care needs have increased to the point where he should get the enhanced rate, he should be able to go for that, no?

poppy12345

Spoonie_Turtle said:

I'm slightly confused that nobody has mentioned this, can he not be reassessed for PIP but with the acknowledgement that any mobility award cannot be increased?  So if his daily care needs have increased to the point where he should get the enhanced rate, he should be able to go for that, no?

I didn't think of that, apologies to the OP.  Yes he can do that.

Spoonie_Turtle

poppy12345 said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

I'm slightly confused that nobody has mentioned this, can he not be reassessed for PIP but with the acknowledgement that any mobility award cannot be increased?  So if his daily care needs have increased to the point where he should get the enhanced rate, he should be able to go for that, no?

I didn't think of that, apologies to the OP.  Yes he can do that.

[I specifically worded it as a question because I wasn't sure if I was missing something or otherwise confused!]

Good to know that is an option for OP's husband

Alice_Holt

Spoonie_Turtle said:

I'm slightly confused that nobody has mentioned this, can he not be reassessed for PIP but with the acknowledgement that any mobility award cannot be increased?  So if his daily care needs have increased to the point where he should get the enhanced rate, he should be able to go for that, no?

     Yes, I would suggest that the OP contacts Age UK or their local advice charity to get help with this. 
     They need to know exactly which rate of PIP he is currently receiving, and it would be very helpful to know what the points / descriptors are (they can get this from PIP or the award letter). 
    Then an adviser can go through the PIP descriptors / points to determine if an increased award is possible (i.e getting to 12 points on Daily Living (DL); or 8 points if there is currently no DL component award). This is important as there is always a risk in notifying PIP of a worsening / new condition, and having a new assessment,
     They should prepare by getting medical (and other) evidence to support the case for a higher PIP DL award.

    As you say any Mobility award, post SPA, stays as is.  

  OP - what PIP award (and component) is your husband getting?

slowcars

GloverD said:

My husband is 72 years of age.   He gets the lowest payment of PIP.   He cannot get Attendance Allowance because he gets this.   It did not cover him getting a Blue Badge either, only awarded if you get the higher rate or DLA. His blue badge was only granted after he listed all his illnesses and all of the tablets he takes.  Since he was awarded PIP quite a few years ago, he has since been diagnosed with bowel cancer for the second time, atrial fibrilation and sclerosis of the liver due to portal hypertension and reflux.  

Having a diagnosis is OK. But what is more important is how those various conditions fit with the descriptors of PIP

GloverD

tomtom256 said:

GloverD said:

My husband is 72 years of age.   He gets the lowest payment of PIP.   He cannot get Attendance Allowance because he gets this.   It did not cover him getting a Blue Badge either, only awarded if you get the higher rate or DLA. His blue badge was only granted after he listed all his illnesses and all of the tablets he takes.  Since he was awarded PIP quite a few years ago, he has since been diagnosed with bowel cancer for the second time, atrial fibrilation and sclerosis of the liver due to portal hypertension and reflux.  

Any mobility award of PIP will award you a blue badge, I get standard rate mobility and automatically get accepted for a blue badge. I think you need to check with your local council who issues them. Unless you are in part of the UK that has different rules.
But then it would depend on whether he just gets care and/or mobility.
Sorry to hijack thread slightly.

That is incorrect as he went to the Council and got the form, filled it in and paid the £10.  He then received a letter from them asking for a copy of his DLA payment.  He went back and told them that he did not get DLA (they were well aware that he was receiving the lower end of PIP).  They then sent him a letter informing him that he was not eligible for a Blue Badge.  There was a form attached to appeal to which I filled it in stating all of his illnesses and medication.  By doing this he was awarded the Badge.  If I had not bothered he would have not got one.   

Spoonie_Turtle

For the avoidance of doubt, in the 4 nations of the UK a score of 8 or more for 'moving around' does entitle a person to a Blue Badge.

The ‘eligible without further assessment’ criteria

4.4 People who may be issued with a badge without further assessment are those who are more than three years old and fall within one or more of the following descriptions:

• receives the mobility component of Personal Independence Payment (PIP) and has obtained 8 points or more under the “moving around” activity

England: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-blue-badge-scheme-local-authority-guidance-england/blue-badge#determining-the-eligibility-of-individual-applicants
Scotland: https://www.mygov.scot/apply-blue-badge/eligibility
Wales: https://gov.wales/blue-badges-eligibility-html
NI: https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/blue-badge-eligibility-criteria#toc-1

So I guess it depends on how the 8+ points are reached for your husband's mobility element.  If he scored 8 or more for moving around then something went wrong with his Blue Badge application.