Christmas adverts

MovingForwards

People don't risk losing their homes for just one day, it takes months of no / insufficient payments, not coming to arrangements and court appearances before repossession orders are granted.

I'll say it clearly, warnings make very little difference. 

There is limited education in schools about smoking and food related matters. Do you know how many times kids say to their parent(s) smoking will kill them and asking the parent(s) to stop smoking, but basically being told to mind their own business, or yeah New Year's resolution, or I've just purchased them and I'm not throwing them away and as much as that kid despises everything to do with smoking, they end up doing it themselves.

Can you imagine a kid going home after school and saying don't put salt in the food as it's bad for us, the parent saying what do the school know and the kid standing their ground from that day they won't have their food cooked with salt and everything is cooked separately. 

diystarter7

If there were no warnings, I guess people would be drinking just as much as they did before but they don't.
Warnings alone are not the answer i know that and part of the pack should be educated as I said.
Often, not always, those in financial dire do spend money they don't have or need to spend.
I've seen people's homes via work where they are already living from hand to mouth but often cite the festive/Commerical even
as a necessity.

What was it they said about it's the thought that count?  
People will get into money woes due to ill health and if it not long-term/perma and they have savings like mos that own a property do, most will come out of well. Then you get others that dream and the phrase I've heard many times via work clients or similar, 'kids can't without...its christmas.'  It made me cringe thinking pay your rent/bills/food/clothing/heating then think about presents. Oten these presents were items that even me/we would think about several times before buying even though we've always had half decent savings

If nothing gets done it will carry on. If something is doen via adverts it attaches some sense of accountability -

Christmas on the whole in the UK is a massive commercial excercise to part people with their money and often those with less to spend the most percentage-wise.

I hope it happens ie warnings re Christmas but I doubt it will and the taxpayers keep on picking up the tab.

If you can afford it, why not but if you cant.......

Pollycat

diystarter7 said:

If there were no warnings, I guess people would be drinking just as much as they did before but they don't.
Warnings alone are not the answer i know that and part of the pack should be educated as I said.
Often, not always, those in financial dire do spend money they don't have or need to spend.
I've seen people's homes via work where they are already living from hand to mouth but often cite the festive/Commerical even
as a necessity.

What was it they said about it's the thought that count?  
People will get into money woes due to ill health and if it not long-term/perma and they have savings like mos that own a property do, most will come out of well. Then you get others that dream and the phrase I've heard many times via work clients or similar, 'kids can't without...its christmas.'  It made me cringe thinking pay your rent/bills/food/clothing/heating then think about presents. Oten these presents were items that even me/we would think about several times before buying even though we've always had half decent savings

If nothing gets done it will carry on. If something is doen via adverts it attaches some sense of accountability -

Christmas on the whole in the UK is a massive commercial excercise to part people with their money and often those with less to spend the most percentage-wise.

I hope it happens ie warnings re Christmas but I doubt it will and the taxpayers keep on picking up the tab.

If you can afford it, why not but if you cant.......

What do you expect to be done?
And by whom?

powerful_Rogue

Drinking

Those that want to drink will drink

Smoking

Those that want to smoke will smoke

Spending

Those that want to spend will spend

diystarter7

powerful_Rogue said:

Drinking

Those that want to drink will drink

Smoking

Those that want to smoke will smoke

Spending

Those that want to spend will spend

Thanks for confirming what I have posted, IE some will benefit from the warnings.

If there were no rules/guidance by the government, trust me that more people would be drinking, smoking and foolish spending.

What you said is almost applicalbe in everything in life but there are rules and or guidance for almost everything, therefore, the need to guide/warn people re spending money they can ill afford to spend on pointless presents.

powerful_Rogue

diystarter7 said:

powerful_Rogue said:

Drinking

Those that want to drink will drink

Smoking

Those that want to smoke will smoke

Spending

Those that want to spend will spend

Thanks for confirming what I have posted, IE some will benefit from the warnings.

If there were no rules/guidance by the government, trust me that more people would be drinking, smoking and foolish spending.

What you said is almost applicalbe in everything in life but there are rules and or guidance for almost everything, therefore, the need to guide/warn people re spending money they can ill afford to spend on pointless presents.

Any evidence to back that up?

How about some of the following?

Baby adverts - Having children costs money

Food shopping  - Eating can make you fat

Holidays - Can cause cancer if sun lotion isn't applied properly

Etc etc

How about people use their common sense. If you don't have the money, don't spend it.

diystarter7

Evidence is based on the fact that tens of millions is spent on government warnings and if not more.
Personal evidence is since the warnings on alcohol, I, and some family and friends have cut back or stopped drinking and several ex-workmates stopped smoking, thanks.

Several years ago on a team warm-up - question about  following instructions that could save your life/etc, almost 100% voted they did note and follow rules/warnings/etc and there were about 200 of us.

Re how about "people using their common sense" I'll let you work that one out but can safely safe I have more than enough of it as do millions of others but many don't.

In my judgment warnings etc are needed otherwise there would not be any but if you disagree I have nothing else to add.

Evidence about seatbelts and how those in the back not belting up were a danger to those in front advertisement warnings. Since then  I tell those in the back inc adults to belt up.  Thanks.

powerful_Rogue

diystarter7 said:

Evidence is based on the fact that tens of millions is spent on government warnings and if not more.
Personal evidence is since the warnings on alcohol, I, and some family and friends have cut back or stopped drinking and several ex-workmates stopped smoking, thanks.

Several years ago on a team warm-up - question about  following instructions that could save your life/etc, almost 100% voted they did note and follow rules/warnings/etc and there were about 200 of us.

Re how about "people using their common sense" I'll let you work that one out but can safely safe I have more than enough of it as do millions of others but many don't.

In my judgment warnings etc are needed otherwise there would not be any but if you disagree I have nothing else to add.

Evidence about seatbelts and how those in the back not belting up were a danger to those in front advertisement warnings. Since then  I tell those in the back inc adults to belt up.  Thanks.

Wearing seatbelts is a point of law.

Again, where is the evidence that the Government has spent 'tens of millions' on these warnings?

I wasn't looking for personal evidence, I was looking for facts and figures to show how these warnings make a difference.

Hmm, you state you have common sense, yet had to wait till a warning came on the TV about alcohol consumption?!

By your logic, everything should have a warning that it will cost money and potentially put you in debt.

diystarter7

You never said you was not looking for "personal evidence." It is factual and demonstrates that warns etc worked.


So re "common sense" how do you explain those that spend too much on items they can ill afford to spend money on? What happened to "common sense" there?

seat belts may be the law but you still get warnings on tv/etc. Belt up was a massive ad campaign and if it was the "law" as it is, why the millions spent on adverts if they don't work as you are guessing?

powerful_Rogue

diystarter7 said:

You never said you was not looking for "personal evidence." It is factual and demonstrates that warns etc worked.


So re "common sense" how do you explain those that spend too much on items they can ill afford to spend money on? What happened to "common sense" there?

seat belts may be the law but you still get warnings on tv/etc. Belt up was a massive ad campaign and if it was the "law" as it is, why the millions spent on adverts if they don't work as you are guessing?

So you think a piece of text at the bottom of an advert will make them think 'Hang about, can I afford this?' - Nonsense.

Again, looking for facts and figures. Personal evidence can be made up.

Yup, they were on TV, to advise of the fines for not buckling up. Same as the drink driver adverts.