You CAN switch suppliers

CookieRose

Deleted_User said:

For my area (Yorkshire) the two tariffs are:

Shell SVT        - 49.54p/day & 33.029p/kWh electricity, 28.48p/day & 10.244p/kWh gas

Octopus SVT  -  47.90p/day & 33.03p/kWh electricity,  26.84p/day & 10.24p/kWh gas

Nothing like the differences you are claiming.

I still don't think you're moving from one SVT to another, or if you are then you have misunderstood one set of rates.

I haven't misunderstood - I have my current Shell bill in front of me:

Your tariff rates

Electricity

Standing charge: 50.35p per day
Unit rate per kWh: 37.000p 

Gas
Standing charge: 33.53p per day
Unit rate per kWh: 11.250p

Prices inclusive of VAT

Octopus - confirmed via email:

Here is a breakdown of your new tariff.
Electricity:
Standing charge: 42.77 p/day (Including VAT)
Unit rate: 34.23 p/kWh (Including VAT).

Gas:
Standing charge: 26.84 p/day (Including VAT)
Unit rate: 10.46 p/kWh (Including VAT).

Both are Energy Price Guarantee discounted SVTs - Southern region.

[Deleted User]

That's a cash/cheque SVT (Shell) compared with a Direct Debit SVT (Octopus).

You would have got the same saving by moving onto Direct Debit at Shell (minus about 4p per day that Octopus discount extra on combined standing charges).

ariarnia

to be fair not the 50 cashback/referal amount. and octopus are often said to have great customer service so prob not a bad place to be. 

[Deleted User]

ariarnia said:

to be fair not the 50 cashback/referal amount. and octopus are often said to have great customer service so prob not a bad place to be. 

Yes, but the thread was "cheaper prices by moving supplier" - when actually it should have been "£50 cashback for moving supplier"

stewie_griffin

Is this anything to do with Octopus not charging different amounts for different payment methods or is that not a thing any more?

[Deleted User]

stewie_griffin said:

Is this anything to do with Octopus not charging different amounts for different payment methods or is that not a thing any more?

They do again now - because the cap is different for the different payment methods.

CookieRose

[Deleted User] said:

That's a cash/cheque SVT (Shell) compared with a Direct Debit SVT (Octopus).

You would have got the same saving by moving onto Direct Debit at Shell (minus about 4p per day that Octopus discount extra on combined standing charges).

The Octopus prices are what I'll be paying NON direct debit.  I went to great pains to clarify that with them when I called.  I realise it would be more convenient if I was stupid, but I can confirm that I am indeed in possession of a brain 

So we've ascertained that I am going to be getting better rates by switching, and I'll get some nice cashback, and that indeed it IS worth looking to see if you can/should switch, which is why I posted in the first place.  NOT for a forensic examination of my comprehension and intelligence levels.

stewie_griffin

The op must have gone from paying by on receipt of bill to paying by DD then.

[Deleted User]

CookieRose said:

[Deleted User] said:

That's a cash/cheque SVT (Shell) compared with a Direct Debit SVT (Octopus).

You would have got the same saving by moving onto Direct Debit at Shell (minus about 4p per day that Octopus discount extra on combined standing charges).

The Octopus prices are what I'll be paying NON direct debit.  I went to great pains to clarify that with them when I called.  I realise it would be more convenient if I was stupid, but I can confirm that I am indeed in possession of a brain 

So we've ascertained that I am going to be getting better rates by switching, and I'll get some nice cashback, and that indeed it IS worth looking to see if you can/should switch, which is why I posted in the first place.  NOT for a forensic examination of my comprehension and intelligence levels.

Then you are different from every other customer we have heard from on the Octopus SVT, and I congratulate you for getting them to go back on their published statements, blog, and tariff guides, that all say they have different prices for DD and non-DD following the introduction of the SVT. 

CookieRose

stewie_griffin said:

The op must have gone from paying by on receipt of bill to paying by DD then.

Nope, still paying on receipt of bill.