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Sky high electric usage

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  • Nicksby
    Nicksby Posts: 13 Forumite
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    chris_n said:
    If you are electric only how are you heating your house?
    Electric raditors 
  • Nicksby
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    Following on from immediately  above re heating:have 
    - How do you heat your water?
    - are your shower(s) fed from a tank or are they self-heating standard electric style ones?
    - Do you have anything like an older American style Fridge Freezer, a pond or a fish tank, anything else that you could immediately identify as possibly being a higher than average user? (As a short cut here, have a think about things that heat something up or cool something down to start with as those are usually your biggest culprits)

    As a first step though you definitely need to get a handle on what you ARE actually using - it may be that UW are wildly overestimating for whatever reason, and yes, I sympathise with your issue about them just not listening, I’ve been there! You do need to arm your argument with actual detail though - otherwise you’re just saying “I think this is too much” but every second caller they have is going to be saying the same at the moment, and 50% of those will be paying the right amount but just using more than they think! 
    Have a hot water tank it looks old but seems to work as i get hot water.I put this on for around an hour a day. Electric shower.  No huge appliances. Do work from home but only for 6 hours 3 days a week. 
  • Nicksby
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    Robin9 said:
    @Nicksby     Please have a look at your bills - against the meter readings are there lots of E (for estimated, meaning UW is guessing what your consumption is) or A, C, or S  or Our Read or Your Read.  What were the readings 12 months ago and what are they NOW ?

    What is your electric heating -  storage rads, underfloor, ceiling, panel heaters or (heaven forbid) traditional wet radiators with a huge tank ?

    Electric raditors. Hot water tank. Have about 5 months where they have estimated bill even tho I gave readings 
  • MattMattMattUK
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    Nicksby said:
    Plenty of people here will advise on how to audit your consumption. First please let us know the readings on your meter which you provided to the energy supplier when you moved in and the date of those readings, and also the readings today. You will have two reading for each date, i.e. day rate and night rate.
    91365 day 80134 night that was 22/11/21  lasted read 2440 day 8408 night 
    As you are on E7 what region are you in as those vary a lot by region, then we can calculate your annual costs and estimate monthly Direct Debits. 
  • Robin9
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    Nicksby said:
    Plenty of people here will advise on how to audit your consumption. First please let us know the readings on your meter which you provided to the energy supplier when you moved in and the date of those readings, and also the readings today. You will have two reading for each date, i.e. day rate and night rate.
    91365 day 80134 night that was 22/11/21  lasted read 2440 day 8408 night 
    As you are on E7 what region are you in as those vary a lot by region, then we can calculate your annual costs and estimate monthly Direct Debits. 
    Assuming last read was today - should 8408 be 84080 ?

    In 10 months you have used 11000 day units and 4000night. WOW to the day use
    Never pay on an estimated bill. Always read and understand your bill
  • Alnat1
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    What do you use the hot water for if you have an electric shower? If it's only for washing up/cleaning, boil a kettle when you need it, turn that immersion heater OFF. Perfectly fine to wash your hands in cold water, it's the soap that cleans them.
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  • Robin9
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    Nicksby said:
    chris_n said:
    If you are electric only how are you heating your house?
    Electric raditors 
    Are these traditional storage rads or slimline panels ?
    Never pay on an estimated bill. Always read and understand your bill
  • Nicksby
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    dunstonh said:
    Keep complaining but don't get any where. 
    You have missed the most important thing out of your posts.  You haven't mentioned what you usage is.  Give us some ACTUAL meter readings that cover at least a year.    Then we can start analysing it.


     I do have a economy 7 meter but had this changed to a single taffif but bills still display day and night readings.
    That is normal.  The single rate gets applied to the night and the day figures.

     I seem to using way more than the average house hold.
    The average is misleading as there will be households with 1 person or even 0 people. There will be second homes drawing very little and there will be people with masses of consumer electricals that are left on standby permanently.  Or fridge freezers that are older than a few years that are drawing 6 times the power of the modern efficient ones.  Or dishwashers running on standard programmes rather than eco or tumble driers that use so much energy that they could account for 25-50% of your overall use.  Or halogen spot lights....     The list goes on but you haven't given us any detail for us to help.


    8958 was estimated usage when moved in and gave 1st reading 91365 day 80134 night. This was nov. Was billed in Dec for 75 quid. 
    Jan bill. 31-11-31-12 DR 91534 NR 80196 estimated. Kwh was 732
    Feb bill. 31-12-28-01 DR 9226 NR 80473 estimated khw 3658. My reading 28-01-31-01 DR 85924 NR 80513. Was billed for 992.61
    March bill. 22-11-28-01 DR 91365-95924 KWH 4559 NR 8034-80513 KWH 379. 
    My reading 28-01-28-02
    DR 95924 NR 80513
    April bill. 01-03-31-03 DR 9556-97135. Kwh 538NR 80788-81012. Kwh 224. At this point 473.06 behind and bill for that month was 673.06
    May bill. 31-03-30-04 DR 97134-97617 E khw 483 NR 81012-81213 kwh 201. Bill is 172.62
    June bill. 30-04-31-05. DR 97617-98065 E  kwh 448 NR 81213-81400 E kwh 187.
    July bill. 31-05-30-06 DR 98065-98481 E kwh 416. NR 81400-81573. Was behind 418 and bill was for 819. 
    August bill. 30-06-31-07 DR 81573 NR 81758 now owe 986.15 
    Sep bill. 31-07-31-08 NR 98996-99599 E  kwh 693 NR 81750-82075 E kwh 325. 
    Oct bill. 31-08-01-08 DR 99599-9806 -693 kwh NR 82075-81750 - 325 kwh
    01-08-01-04 DR previously billed 98906-97134 -1772 kwh NR 81750-81012 - 737 kwh.
    01-04-02-03 DR previously billed 97134- 96596- 538 kwh NR 81012-80788- 224 kwh 
    02-03-31-03 DR 96596-97571 kwh 975 NR 80788-80875 kwh 85
    31-01-31-07 DR 9757-780 kwh 3209 NR 80873-81154 kwh 281
    31-07-12-09 DR 780- 1855 kwh 1075 NR 81154- 81248 kwh 94
    21-09-30-09 my reading 1855 DR and NR 81248. 
    Did not have a clue what all this meant and was told it was because meter had reset and now they say I have not being enough. I do not understand any of it. All they keep telling me is my bills seem excessively high . 
  • Nicksby
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    Robin9 said:
    Nicksby said:
    chris_n said:
    If you are electric only how are you heating your house?
    Electric raditors 
    Are these traditional storage rads or slimline panels ?
    Slimline 
  • Nicksby
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    Alnat1 said:
    What do you use the hot water for if you have an electric shower? If it's only for washing up/cleaning, boil a kettle when you need it, turn that immersion heater OFF. Perfectly fine to wash your hands in cold water, it's the soap that cleans them.
    I only have a switch on wall to turn on and off can't see a thermostat to turn temp down as boiling hot 
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