Smart Meters - good idea or not?

PennyForThem_2

I would pay to get my intermittent SMETS2 replaced by working ones especially as I want to get solar panels installed and in futurean electric vehicle.

t0rt0ise

I thought it was time to get prepared for ToU tariffs and am getting smart meters fitted in three weeks time. I hope they work!

Freebird53

FreeBear said:

A couple more...

https://energenie4u.co.uk/catalogue/product/MIHO006

https://www.theowl.com/index.php/products/energy-monitors/

https://peacefair.aliexpress.com/store/group/AC-Energy-Module-RS485/1773456_513494680.html - Got a couple of the PZEM-016 modules myself.

Thanks, i'll take a look. £20 on Amazon.

Chrysalis

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Chrysalis said:

I think the points are valid about the handling of faults post install, thats an industry problem rather than a smart meter one.

Its difficult to get suppliers to deal with faulty dumb meters not just faulty smart meters.  They just seem to not want to know.

That is down to the way that our Government has implemented smart metering. Rather than go for a top down directed system, the Government has elected for one where suppliers make most of the decisions. Meter and device manufacturers are permitted to design; build and test their meters and devices on the DCC network. All these devices have bespoke firmware. The same parties are responsible for developing new firmware if there any problems.  The supplier’s role is primarily to make a meter selection; install it and then monitor the commissioning process.

The DCC is responsible for the network and all the secure communications hubs. The communications hubs are at the root of most smart metering problems. The DCC is not consumer facing.

When things go wrong, suppliers can only lean on other parties to put things right. I am sure that this is as frustrating for them as it is for their customers.

Yep so you just explained the reasoning behind what I have observed, thank you very much for that.

Chrysalis

bomdabass said:

Smart meters will inevitably be used to charge your more for using at peak times.

Avoid.

Its more like dumb meter customers will pay peak rates all the time and smart meter customers will pay off peak rates during off peak.

I am not purely speculating either, this happens already.

Octopus paid me to use electric not long ago.

Freebird53

Chrysalis said:

bomdabass said:

Smart meters will inevitably be used to charge your more for using at peak times.

Avoid.

Its more like dumb meter customers will pay peak rates all the time and smart meter customers will pay off peak rates during off peak.

I am not purely speculating either, this happens already.

Octopus paid me to use electric not long ago.

How much were you paid if you don't mind me asking?

QrizB

Freebird53 said:

Chrysalis said:

bomdabass said:

Smart meters will inevitably be used to charge your more for using at peak times.

Avoid.

Its more like dumb meter customers will pay peak rates all the time and smart meter customers will pay off peak rates during off peak.

I am not purely speculating either, this happens already.

Octopus paid me to use electric not long ago.

How much were you paid if you don't mind me asking?

It was almost 9p/kWh.
Thread here:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6390982/octopus-agile-tariff-showing-plunge-negative-pricing-1st-oct

Freebird53

QrizB said:

Freebird53 said:

Chrysalis said:

bomdabass said:

Smart meters will inevitably be used to charge your more for using at peak times.

Avoid.

Its more like dumb meter customers will pay peak rates all the time and smart meter customers will pay off peak rates during off peak.

I am not purely speculating either, this happens already.

Octopus paid me to use electric not long ago.

How much were you paid if you don't mind me asking?

It was almost 9p/kWh.
Thread here:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6390982/octopus-agile-tariff-showing-plunge-negative-pricing-1st-oct

Thanks QrizB, but i can't see on those 4 pages where Chrysalis actualy states how much in total they were paid and for how much electric. Could you paste the specific portion? Thanks.

QrizB

Freebird53 said:

QrizB said:

Freebird53 said:

Chrysalis said:

bomdabass said:

Smart meters will inevitably be used to charge your more for using at peak times.

Avoid.

Its more like dumb meter customers will pay peak rates all the time and smart meter customers will pay off peak rates during off peak.

I am not purely speculating either, this happens already.

Octopus paid me to use electric not long ago.

How much were you paid if you don't mind me asking?

It was almost 9p/kWh.
Thread here:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6390982/octopus-agile-tariff-showing-plunge-negative-pricing-1st-oct

Thanks QrizB, but i can't see on those 4 pages where Chrysalis actualy states how much in total they were paid and for how much electric. Could you paste the specific portion? Thanks.

Sorry, I thought you were asking how much Octopus were paying per kWh. I have no idea how much Chrysalis personally was paid during the plunge pricing period,

Freebird53

QrizB said:

Sorry, I thought you were asking how much Octopus were paying per kWh. I have no idea how much Chrysalis personally was paid during the plunge pricing period,

No probs, i am always on the lookout for something that will save me money!