help with internal door hinge that keeps working loose - NOW FALLEN OFF ITS HINGES! -now fixed

GDB2222

Oh, and the screws, are they threaded all the way along, or do they have a smooth bit near the head?

travis-powers

I may be mistaken but it looks from the picture that the knuckle of the hinge is set too far back, if it is it will put a lot of strain on the hinge and no matter what you do it will always work loose.

silvercar

GDB2222 said:

Oh, and the screws, are they threaded all the way along, or do they have a smooth bit near the head?

No, threaded to the head. These are replacement larger screws in the hope they would do a better job.

travis-powers said:

I may be mistaken but it looks from the picture that the knuckle of the hinge is set too far back, if it is it will put a lot of strain on the hinge and no matter what you do it will always work loose.

When I start to close the door, the hinge knuckle doesn’t move, instead it stays fixed and the metal plate of the hinge pivots, so the part furthest from the hinge pushes back against the wood and the part near the hinge moves forward away from the wood, when really the plate should remain against the wood and the knuckle swivel the door closed, which starts to happen eventually.

travis-powers

Sounds like it binding, the knuckle of the hinge should  finish no further in than the edge of the lining ( where the architrave is fitted) that may be your problem or another possible issue when the door is shut is there a gap all the way down on the hinge side between the door and door lining?

silvercar

This is the hinge from the other side with the door nearly closed. You can see the screws between the plate and the frame.

I’m confused as to whether the whole thing should be moved inwards or outwards now.

travis-powers

silvercar said:

This is the hinge from the other side with the door nearly closed. You can see the screws between the plate and the frame.

I’m confused as to whether the whole thing should be moved inwards or outwards now.

Outward a couple of mm so that the knuckle is free of the cutout for the hinge.
 When all the screws was fully fitted did you have to use more force to shut it than other doors?

silvercar

travis-powers said:

silvercar said:

This is the hinge from the other side with the door nearly closed. You can see the screws between the plate and the frame.

I’m confused as to whether the whole thing should be moved inwards or outwards now.

Outward a couple of mm so that the knuckle is free of the cutout for the hinge.
 When all the screws was fully fitted did you have to use more force to shut it than other doors?

No, it was really easy to close. 

travis-powers

Try moving the hinge forward a couple of mm.
 If it still works loose and you have a gap between door and lining when closed and there is a gap between shut door and doorstop the only other cause I can think of is that the door is heavy and in need of a middle hinge but if this was the case you would have the same problem on other doors.

silvercar

There was a crash and the door has come off it’s hinges.

this is what the frame now looks like:

silvercar

And the other hinge was in here:

Time to call in a handyman I think!