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NatWest broker rates going up from tomorrow (3rd Oct)

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K_S
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edited 2 October 2022 at 10:21AM in Mortgages & endowments
Just received notification from NatWest about broker rates going up, available from tomorrow. The email says the new rates are "immediately effective" so I imagine it's no longer possible to submit an application for the old rates but do check with your brokers if you have any applications ready to go.

See here for the latest product guide https://www.intermediary.natwest.com/intermediary-solutions/products.html

Please note this may or may not be applicable for direct rates
, I am only talking about NatWest broker rates.

 

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  • K_S said:
    Just received notification from NatWest about broker rates going up, available from tomorrow. The email says the new rates are "immediately effective" so I imagine it's no longer possible to submit an application for the old rates but do check with your brokers if you have any applications ready to go.

    Please note this may or may not be applicable for direct rates
    , I am only talking about NatWest broker rates.

     
    Did this email come in this morning (Sunday)?
  • ACG
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    It did. 
    I am reading it like we basically have until the end of today to submit an application to them rather than the end of tomorrow? 

    I realise it is unprecedented times, but to email on a Sunday with less than 24 hours notice is not really on.
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  • K_S
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    edited 2 October 2022 at 10:40AM
    ACG said:
    It did. 
    I am reading it like we basically have until the end of today to submit an application to them rather than the end of tomorrow? 

    I realise it is unprecedented times, but to email on a Sunday with less than 24 hours notice is not really on.
    @ACG That's what I thought but the email also says "The above rates are immediately effective" so I suspect the old rates are no longer available on the system. Thankfully the one NatWest app I had ready to go was submitted on Friday though this does scupper a couple of recommendations in the pipeline.... 

    I am a Mortgage Adviser - You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. 

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  • mose_2
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    edited 2 October 2022 at 10:46AM
    Was going to look at applying for this tomorrow. Things going from bad to worse 😩 

    looks like 5 year remo close to 5% then? 
  • K_S
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    mose_2 said:
    Was going to look at applying for this tomorrow. Things going from bad to worse 😩 

    looks like 5 year remo close to 5% then? 
    @mose_2 I would stress here that please don't assume that this applies to direct rates as well, the changes outlined above are only with reference to intermediary rates.

    I am a Mortgage Adviser - You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. 

    PLEASE DO NOT SEND PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.

  • mose_2
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    Thanks again. Do you know if I applied today for this rate (3.79) which is still showing, obv I’m not guaranteed that rate until offer but if they change rates tomorrow will they tell me before doing a hard search? Don’t really want to fully apply and have hard search on file at 3.79 only to get offered a much higher rate that I’m not prob not going to take. Hope that makes sense. 
  • K_S
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    @mose_2 For a NatWest broker application, once I click on submit and I get an email from NatWest saying "Thank you for your application. The mortgage reference number is: xyz", the rate is secured irrespective of what happens to their product guide after that.

    My guess is that the above logic should apply to a full direct application as well, but I don't really know.
    mose_2 said:
    Thanks again. Do you know if I applied today for this rate (3.79) which is still showing, obv I’m not guaranteed that rate until offer but if they change rates tomorrow will they tell me before doing a hard search? Don’t really want to fully apply and have hard search on file at 3.79 only to get offered a much higher rate that I’m not prob not going to take. Hope that makes sense. 

    I am a Mortgage Adviser - You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. 

    PLEASE DO NOT SEND PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.

  • ACG
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    K_S said:
    mose_2 said:
    Was going to look at applying for this tomorrow. Things going from bad to worse 😩 

    looks like 5 year remo close to 5% then? 
    @mose_2 I would stress here that please don't assume that this applies to direct rates as well, the changes outlined above are only with reference to intermediary rates.
    One of our customers wanted to do a PT and switch from repayment to IO (BTL) last week. 
    The earliest appointment was November... 
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • It’s very confusing because on the one hand it says rates are “immediately effective”, but on the other hand the new rates are applicable from 3 October. So what happens if the broker submits yesterday or today? I’m paying a hefty fee for mine to submit today. If we don’t get the old rate we’ll be paying £40,000 more over 5 years and can’t afford to move.
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