EV charging tariffs

kazoo61

I am a customer of octopus energy currently on flexible tariff for gas n electric. From 1st October my electric will be 32.24/kWh
We have just got an EV and have been looking at moving to an EV tariff.  'Octopus go' is the one, which is a fixed tariff and whist the low 7.50/kWh from 00:30 - 04:30 is fab for charging,  the day tariff from 04:30 - 00:30 is a higher 38.57
Is there anyone here on an ev tariff 

Thank you 

orbit500

I think quite a few of us are yes. I am on EDF go electric which is similar to octopus go.

EssexHebridean

kazoo61 said:

I am a customer of octopus energy currently on flexible tariff for gas n electric. From 1st October my electric will be 32.24/kWh
We have just got an EV and have been looking at moving to an EV tariff.  'Octopus go' is the one, which is a fixed tariff and whist the low 7.50/kWh from 00:30 - 04:30 is fab for charging,  the day tariff from 04:30 - 00:30 is a higher 38.57
Is there anyone here on an ev tariff 

Thank you 

Not higher compared to those of us with Economy 7 tariffs though - plenty of us would give our right arms for a day rate like that, even while we're paying more for the night rate too! 

MWT

kazoo61 said:

I am a customer of octopus energy currently on flexible tariff for gas n electric. From 1st October my electric will be 32.24/kWh
We have just got an EV and have been looking at moving to an EV tariff.  'Octopus go' is the one, which is a fixed tariff and whist the low 7.50/kWh from 00:30 - 04:30 is fab for charging,  the day tariff from 04:30 - 00:30 is a higher 38.57
Is there anyone here on an ev tariff

Yes, but I prefer the 'Go Faster' version as it can run from as early as 21:30, still 4 hours (although 5 is an option but the rate is higher (8.25p).

Dolor

kazoo61 said:

I am a customer of octopus energy currently on flexible tariff for gas n electric. From 1st October my electric will be 32.24/kWh
We have just got an EV and have been looking at moving to an EV tariff.  'Octopus go' is the one, which is a fixed tariff and whist the low 7.50/kWh from 00:30 - 04:30 is fab for charging,  the day tariff from 04:30 - 00:30 is a higher 38.57
Is there anyone here on an ev tariff 

Thank you 

Go Faster here for 5 hours. I assume that you have a smart meter: Octopus uses 30 minute usage data for billing on its EV tariffs?

Philip1000

I am on economy 7 because i also have solar. On E7 I am getting 15p for export. On go you only get 4p or so. So, if sunny, charge ev for nothing. If not, charge on grid at night. Cost is similar.

dunstonh

I am a customer of octopus energy currently on flexible tariff for gas n electric. From 1st October my electric will be 32.24/kWh

It needs to be under around 25p to be cheaper than petrol.  I have a PHEV monitor these things.  An EV doesn't have the choice.

We have just got an EV and have been looking at moving to an EV tariff.  'Octopus go' is the one, which is a fixed tariff and whist the low 7.50/kWh from 00:30 - 04:30 is fab for charging,  the day tariff from 04:30 - 00:30 is a higher 38.57
Is there anyone here on an ev tariff 

We are on economy 7 and shift as much use to those 7 hours as we can.  i.e. AGA, car, dishwasher, washing machine and tumble.  We don't have heating on electric though.

That is 8p for 7 hours but peak rates you take a hit (as you do with most multi-charge tariffs. 

michaels

dunstonh said:

I am a customer of octopus energy currently on flexible tariff for gas n electric. From 1st October my electric will be 32.24/kWh

It needs to be under around 25p to be cheaper than petrol.  I have a PHEV monitor these things.  An EV doesn't have the choice.

We have just got an EV and have been looking at moving to an EV tariff.  'Octopus go' is the one, which is a fixed tariff and whist the low 7.50/kWh from 00:30 - 04:30 is fab for charging,  the day tariff from 04:30 - 00:30 is a higher 38.57
Is there anyone here on an ev tariff 

We are on economy 7 and shift as much use to those 7 hours as we can.  i.e. AGA, car, dishwasher, washing machine and tumble.  We don't have heating on electric though.

That is 8p for 7 hours but peak rates you take a hit (as you do with most multi-charge tariffs. 

EDF Eastern region?  Most E7 night rate is higher.

We are on EDF Go Electric, 5 hours at 4.5p plus we have V2H so shift 95% of our usage to that night rate - also use it to heat the hot water tank and the house overnight as it is cheaper than the considerably overpriced gas - need to think what to do for this winter, in theory there are £300 get out of fix fees.

Seems if you take the eon tariff (12m fix 9.5p for 7 hours/35p) you also qualify for their 16.5p SEG tariff which might make it a winner for some (Octopus you can't get the high outgoing if you have a TOU tariff)

lohr500

I am puzzled by the new EON Next drive fixed tariff when compared to their Eco 7 fixed tariff.

In our region the Next drive rates are 32.15p and 9.5p with a daily SC of 55.6p. 
Their 12 month fix Eco 7 rates are 38.35p and 13.83p with a daily SC of 55.7p.

Both offer 7 hours of off-peak electricity through the early hours of the day, so unless I am missing something, they are basically the same, other than pricing.

Are the electricity suppliers getting subsidies from somewhere to support lower EV tariff prices or are they just looking to build a portfolio of tariffs targeted at different customers to give an overall return that meets their business plans?

I wonder if they ask for proof of EV ownership or leasing and what they would consider as an EV? 

Based on my consumption modelling, the EON Next drive tariff is currently looking like the lowest cost option for us, once my current EDF GoElectric 98 deal ends at the end of August..

We don't have an EV, but we do have a hungry electric AGA that stores heat using the off peak rate, similar to a storage heater.
Typically it takes around 6 to 6 1/2 hours to reheat the core each day. Most of the EV tariffs only offer 5 hours off-peak, so by the time we add in +/- 1.5 hours at peak rate (around 6kWh) , the 5 hour EV tariffs aren't cost effective.  

CSI_Yorkshire

lohr500 said:

 are they just looking to build a portfolio of tariffs targeted at different customers to give an overall return that meets their business plans?

This.

Plus it's good PR to have nice EV tariffs and some are willing to offer loss-leaders to get this.

And the T&Cs say you need a smart meter with 30-minute readings for billing, which you don't for E7.

Dolor

And the T&Cs say you need a smart meter with 30-minute readings for billing, which you don't for E7.

Interestingly, the ts and cs make no mention of actually needing to have an EV.