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No PCN number - is this legal?

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,735 Forumite
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    Very clearly not a POFA NTK.
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  • MrsHG76
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    Coupon-mad said:
    Very clearly not a POFA NTK.
    Really? I can't see how it isn't, but then again I'm not very good reading legal documents. 

    Is that a good thing for me, or not?
  • KeithP
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    edited 6 November 2022 at 11:45PM
    How many days between these dates?...




  • MrsHG76
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    29 calendar days (if 21st Sept is day 1)...so they were a day late sending it to me?
  • KeithP
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    Did you read this in the NEWBIES thread?...
  • MrsHG76
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    KeithP said:
    Did you read this in the NEWBIES thread?...
    I presume that NCP are a firm that alleges keeper liability under POFA2012 then? How can I tell that from the NTK?
  • KeithP
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    MrsHG76 said:
    KeithP said:
    Did you read this in the NEWBIES thread?...
    I presume that NCP are a firm that alleges keeper liability...

    Why do you presume that?
    Please read again the quote in my last post.
  • Coupon-mad
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    MrsHG76 said:
    KeithP said:
    Did you read this in the NEWBIES thread?...
    I presume that NCP are a firm that alleges keeper liability under POFA2012 then? How can I tell that from the NTK?

    From the wording.  From what is NOT there.

    Look at POFA paragraph 9(2)f and tell me you can see that mandatory 'keeper liability' phrase: 'we will have the right to recover the charge from you after xx days' warning in your NTK.

    I can't.
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  • MrsHG76
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    Aha i see! So, given that I am at Court stage and have submitted my defence (at the time i didnt have the SAR info) do I put in a revised defence, or contact NCP, or wait til WS stage?
  • Coupon-mad
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    Wait till WS stage but it's only relevant if the Defendant was not driving (or can't be sure who among the possible drivers was).
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