Warm Home Discount Scheme 2022 - confusing info

Spoonie_Turtle

Deleted_User said:

Spoonie_Turtle said:

gbhxu said:

Remember every bill will be credited with £400 over 6 months
(October & November £46 each month. December, January, February and March it will be £47 each month)

This year, yes.  Can't bank on any extra help next year.

Deleted_User said:
And no eligibility for people living in park homes who are often the poorest.

The operators of the separate Park Homes WHD currently anticipate it will continue:
"Subject to Ofgem guidance, we anticipate the Park Homes Warm Home Discount scheme will re-open again in September 2022."
https://www.parkhomeswhd.com

For core group 1 pension credit yes.

Not for core group 2 means tested benefits or tax credits, and high heating costs as determined by home age and type and size. Unless they change the draft regulations.

Warm homes discount draft regulations for core group 2

 

"Households living in Park Homes are not eligible for a rebate. Many residents of Park Homes pay for their electricity supply to their site owner and are therefore not a direct customer of an electricity supplier. Meanwhile, Park Homes which are directly supplied with electricity from an electricity supplier will not be eligible under Core Group 2, as they are not sufficiently comparable to other property types and therefore, we have not been able to model and rank their energy costs in a comparable way."

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1093377/warm-home-discount-draft-eligibility-statement-2022.pdf

Oh I see what you mean - the Charis scheme is only for people who pay the park for energy, not for park home residents with their own energy accounts so those fall through that crack.

Odd, they could have assigned the park homes a rating equivalent to a certain age as they don't seem to be very well insulated or efficient.

Cyclamen

calcotti said:

Cyclamen said: Oh crumbs.. that means we are unlikely to get help then,

Why would you think that? You said you get guarantee Pension Credit. Therefore you will, under the changes, now get WHD automatically (provided your supplier is in the scheme).

Hello.

sorry i dont getpension credit.. i am guessing i made a typo and wrote do not dont.  

its PIP , ESA, Income support and carers allowance for our home

calcotti

Cyclamen said:.

sorry i dont getpension credit.. i am guessing i made a typo and wrote do not dont.  

The confusion was that you had added to an existing thread and I mixed you up with the OP who is on PC.

Cyclamen

I am never sure wether to join in, start a new thread or hit google and really scare myself.?  

This was all news to me.. i ahvent been keeping up very well with things this year an dhave been checking for the WHD applications to open regularly..so it was a big surprise.

however  i get a fuel (cost of living) payment due to PIP i think so that will go towards it.

Just took me by surprise as low income and on PIP we usually get WHD. 

rangout

I pay a service charge to my HA which covers my electricity. I don't have an account with an electricity supplier

I take it I won't be eligible for this similar to the Park Home residents?

ptanithmillard

Does anyone know what energy rating on an EPC certificate you need to be able to qualify for the discount?

For the past six years (since I became carer) my parents have received the warm home discount direct from our supplier, but now that the government has taken over we just received a letter saying we are not eligible based on the modeling of our home.

I have checked the website but there is nothing detailing how it is calculated. And the scheme helpline detailed in the letter just directs us back to the website if our letter contains a certain reference, we can't even speak to anyone.

The letter does say we can provide alternative data via an EPC certificate but that has to be paid for and as we are struggling it's a cost I'd rather not have if we are indeed ineligible under the government's rules. On the EPC website, five of the seven properties on our street that already have a certificate have an energy rating of D or E and only two properties have a rating of C, though those two properties have had a lot of work done to them compared to the rest, including ours. If I knew what energy rating the government deems eligible, I'd know if it was worth the cost of the certificate.

sheramber

Have you tried the online form?

https://www.gov.uk/check-if-youre-eligible-for-warm-home-discount

HillStreetBlues

ptanithmillard said:

Does anyone know what energy rating on an EPC certificate you need to be able to qualify for the discount?

It's not based on the EPC. Based on age, size etc.as the  link supplied by sheramber shows.

sheramber

You do not need an EPC.

It is suggested as where you can get the information you do need

MalMonroe

poppy12345 said:

MalMonroe said:

Hi, is the following info of any use? It's an updated report from last month by the MSE team.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2022/03/warm-home-discount-reforms-/

All of that was mentioned in the link that Spoonie posted.

MalMonroe said:

The criteria seem to change every year - a couple of years ago I was eligible (as a pensioner on a low income but not eligible to claim pension credits) for the WHD in the wider group but now I'm apparently too wealthy to even bother claiming (my circumstances haven't changed at all). 

The criteria has remained the same in all previous years for those that were claiming Pension credit, including this year. For those that weren't then criteria depended on which energy supplier you were with.

For this year the criteria for those no claiming pension credit has completely changed. Part of the criteria is you must be claiming a qualifying means tested benefit and you don't need to apply. If you qualify you will be contacted.

But surely I am allowed, as everyone on this forum is, to make a comment of my own? Everyone else seems to be. Why not me?

And my own experience is exactly as I posted. I do not qualify for WHD now and I'm happy with that since I have enough money (not a lot but enough) to live on and I know others suffer and need help.  

I very rarely return to threads such as this because some of the comments that I receive are less than friendly, some are downright rude and some have a bit of a 'we know better than you so shut up' feel to them. 

I'm really disappointed here, as I do always mention your name as someone who is really always spot on with benefits advice. I acknowledge and respect that, but I do not mean any harm with my comments. I was NOT advising anyone about anything, just relating my own experience - personal to me. There is no need to try to put others down. Not on a supposedly 'friendly' forum. Which, in my experience, is not always so chummy.