Appealing 3 points? 10 September 2022 at 1:45PM in Motoring 42 replies 3K views

ontheroad1970

StevenB12 said:

400ixl said:

Your tracker is unlikely to be taken as evidence as it is not in anyway a regulated and calibrated device. They are not that accurate either.

What motorway was this and was is it one with a variable speed limit and therefore you were clocked doing more than you think over the speed limit?

It was a section of A1 near Doncaster. I don't recall any variable speed signs on that section that were displayed when I was driving and it was quite a long stretch before I did get to a variable sign which went down to 40mph at the time 

@Car_54 this is the post I am referring to

ontheroad1970

There is a stretch of A1 south of Doncaster that turns into A1(M) until North of Doncaster, looks dual to me.  Perhaps there is a 60mph or lower speed limit on a section - it won't be a 70mph as prosecuting a 74 in a 70 is completely unheard of

dil1976

If it was a A road and in a van the speed limit is 60mph in a lot of commercial vehicles.

born_again

A1 does have a few section in that area that are not 70. 

TooManyPoints

All we need to see is the paperwork. I've a sneaky suspicion that we won't, but I'd love to be proved wrong.

sheramber

Looks like we are anot going to see the letter the OP claims to have received

Car_54

ontheroad1970 said:

There is a stretch of A1 south of Doncaster that turns into A1(M) until North of Doncaster, looks dual to me.  Perhaps there is a 60mph or lower speed limit on a section - it won't be a 70mph as prosecuting a 74 in a 70 is completely unheard of

Yep. He said twice that it was a motorway, but possibly he doesn’t know the difference.

MalMonroe

According to this information - things have changed :- 

https://www.passmefast.co.uk/resources/driving-advice/drive-above-speed-limit

and those of you doubting the OP's word may not be on the ball.

The offence as outlined by the OP is in Band A. And the fine is £100 with 3 points on a driving licence.

Also info here - OP, just add your details and it should tell you that you have committed a Band A offence and what the penalty is -

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/driving/171938/speeding-fines-2022-how-much-will-you-have-to-pay

Since you ask, I'd not try to argue with the evidence because it appears that whether you were doing 72mph or 74mph, you were still over the limit and have received notification of it.

Pay up, accept the points and resolve to be more careful. I'm not trying to preach here because I've done similar in the past, twice. Once on a dual carriageway - and had to cough up a hefty fine and have 6 points on my licence for 4 years. I was also sent on one of those driving awareness courses in the past - and found it really helpful. But as you say, there's a time limit on those or you could have gone on another one. 

Obviously this is just my own opinion, and I'm just saying what I'd do.

If you decide to go to court to defend this and lose, you'll have to pay more than £100 and you've been clocked doing the wrong speed, so there's not really any defence. Sorry. 

Jenni_D

Any update on a copy of the NIP letter @StevenB12?

Herzlos

dil1976 said:

If it was a A road and in a van the speed limit is 60mph in a lot of commercial vehicles.

This is what I'm thinking. The tracker makes me think it's probably a van, which has a 60 limit on a stretch of 'motorway' that's actually an A road dual carriageway. That might explain the "74 in a 70" thing, because it's technically a 70 road for other vehicles.

In which case a tracker showing 70-72 is still going to prove the offense.