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Appealing 3 points?
Hey guys, how are you all doing?
I got clocked by a manned CCTV unit supposedly doing 74mph on the motorway, but vehicle tracker says I was doing no more than 72 for the journey.
I've been charged with fine and 3 points, haven't accepted yet, is it worth appealing based on the tracker? I've had conflicting advice, ironically one of my neighbors is an ex policeman and he said most manned and stationary CCTV cameras won't flash unless you're doing 5mph over to account for your 10% plus, but this can vary but that tracker information is rarely relied upon as they can be inaccurate to more than your speedo.
Is it worth appealing or accepting the fine?
Cheers
I got clocked by a manned CCTV unit supposedly doing 74mph on the motorway, but vehicle tracker says I was doing no more than 72 for the journey.
I've been charged with fine and 3 points, haven't accepted yet, is it worth appealing based on the tracker? I've had conflicting advice, ironically one of my neighbors is an ex policeman and he said most manned and stationary CCTV cameras won't flash unless you're doing 5mph over to account for your 10% plus, but this can vary but that tracker information is rarely relied upon as they can be inaccurate to more than your speedo.
Is it worth appealing or accepting the fine?
Cheers
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Never take advice from a policeman, ex or not. You can't appeal something that hasn't happened. You either accept the 3 points and fine or you take it to court and defend it.
Manned units never flash. The tracker data almost certainly cannot be relied on, it will probably only log speeds at intervals and not instantaneous speeds. What was the speed limit?2 -
70 speed limit, as you said not reliable checking the tracker but checking if for the length of motorway I was on speed varies from 68-72mph but never above that.0
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Something doesn't add up here, action wouldn't be taken unless your speed was 79 or greater (10% + 2). It is unheard of prosecutions being undertaken below this. Suggest you take this to Pepipoo.2
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What was the speed limit?
If it was 70mph it is extremely unlikely that they would take any action against you unless they'd clocked you at at least 79mph. (Enforcement is meant to start at limit + 10% + 2mph which for a 70 limit would be 79mph).
If they are after you for speeding at 74mph it is likely that the limit was 60mph (variable speed signs?) so any evidence that you were travelling at 72mph will only prove the offence.
And in any case, tracker information from your vehicle won't be admissible as evidence as nobody knows how reliable it is - or isn't...
[Edit: Cross-posted with TadleyBaggie. @StevenB12 - if it was a 70 limit no way are you being prosecuted for speeding at 74mph... ]1 -
TadleyBaggie said:Something doesn't add up here, action wouldn't be taken unless your speed was 79 or greater (10% + 2). It is unheard of prosecutions being undertaken below this. Suggest you take this to Pepipoo.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on Debt Free Wannabe and Old Style Money Saving boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
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Manxman_in_exile said:What was the speed limit?
If it was 70mph it is extremely unlikely that they would take any action against you unless they'd clocked you at at least 79mph. (Enforcement is meant to start at limit + 10% + 2mph which for a 70 limit would be 79mph).
If they are after you for speeding at 74mph it is likely that the limit was 60mph (variable speed signs?) so any evidence that you were travelling at 72mph will only prove the offence.
And in any case, tracker information from your vehicle won't be admissible as evidence as nobody knows how reliable it is - or isn't...
As I said paperwork I was exceeding 70 mph limit and was clocked at 74mph.
Unfortunately I had a speed awareness about 2 months shy of 3 years0 -
Your tracker is unlikely to be taken as evidence as it is not in anyway a regulated and calibrated device. They are not that accurate either.
What motorway was this and was is it one with a variable speed limit and therefore you were clocked doing more than you think over the speed limit?1 -
Brie said:TadleyBaggie said:Something doesn't add up here, action wouldn't be taken unless your speed was 79 or greater (10% + 2). It is unheard of prosecutions being undertaken below this. Suggest you take this to Pepipoo.
If you genuinely know of anybody* who has been done for a slower speed than that, they would like to know over at Pepipoo as it is apparently unheard of.
*Lots of people complain that they've been done for being only 2mph over the limit, but when they've been asked to show the paperwork they turn out to have been mistaken...3 -
StevenB12 said:Manxman_in_exile said:What was the speed limit?
If it was 70mph it is extremely unlikely that they would take any action against you unless they'd clocked you at at least 79mph. (Enforcement is meant to start at limit + 10% + 2mph which for a 70 limit would be 79mph).
If they are after you for speeding at 74mph it is likely that the limit was 60mph (variable speed signs?) so any evidence that you were travelling at 72mph will only prove the offence.
And in any case, tracker information from your vehicle won't be admissible as evidence as nobody knows how reliable it is - or isn't...
As I said paperwork I was exceeding 70 mph limit and was clocked at 74mph.
Unfortunately I had a speed awareness about 2 months shy of 3 years3 -
400ixl said:Your tracker is unlikely to be taken as evidence as it is not in anyway a regulated and calibrated device. They are not that accurate either.
What motorway was this and was is it one with a variable speed limit and therefore you were clocked doing more than you think over the speed limit?0
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