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£400 energy grant -eligibility
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throughtheblue said:
Found this on the gov's website...MWT said:So... the £400 plan is still happening and additionally this has also been said......the government will set up a fund for those using heating oil, living in park homes or those on heat networks so that all UK consumers can benefit from “equivalent support”.So the £400 will go to the landlord, but there may be help for those like you who do not have an energy account, but I have to say you are not in a clearly identifiable group so watch carefully to see if there is something you may need to register for...If the rest of the plan is delivered as a discount to the unit price as stated, then the landlord can only charge you the discounted price, as long as that is being received, which may not be the case if the landlord is on a fixed tariff...The Government hopes that there may also be discounts to the fixed tariffs after further discussion with suppliers...
"If you pay for your electricity as part of your rent -If your landlord has a domestic electricity contract with a licensed electricity supplier, and you pay for your electricity as part of your rent, your landlord may pass their discount on to you."
That reads like we won't be able to claim our own £400 grant and can only hope the landlord shares £200. Doesn't really seem like a fair scheme, where everyone and anyone regardless of circumstance will get £400 grant, but because we don't have a separate electricity account we won't be entitled. I wonder if their will be a phone line for these issues.
Hit 'pause' for the moment, there is a lot of stuff that has been out there for a while and may need to change.See what comes out in the next couple of weeks as the changes announced today get fleshed out.
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Apologies for misunderstanding your point.[Deleted User] said:
You mistake my point - I was replying to your general assertion that it's for "everyone and anyone".throughtheblue said:
I will have a separate electricity meter, separate building, separate council tax and paying for the electricity I'm using, just not via my own account. In my situation, the scheme looks like a complete joke.Deleted_User said:
Its not "everyone and anyone", it's "every domestic electricity account". Could you just imagine a shared house with one electricity meter, but every individual deciding they could get £400?throughtheblue said:
Found this on the gov's website...MWT said:So... the £400 plan is still happening and additionally this has also been said......the government will set up a fund for those using heating oil, living in park homes or those on heat networks so that all UK consumers can benefit from “equivalent support”.So the £400 will go to the landlord, but there may be help for those like you who do not have an energy account, but I have to say you are not in a clearly identifiable group so watch carefully to see if there is something you may need to register for...If the rest of the plan is delivered as a discount to the unit price as stated, then the landlord can only charge you the discounted price, as long as that is being received, which may not be the case if the landlord is on a fixed tariff...The Government hopes that there may also be discounts to the fixed tariffs after further discussion with suppliers...
"If you pay for your electricity as part of your rent -If your landlord has a domestic electricity contract with a licensed electricity supplier, and you pay for your electricity as part of your rent, your landlord may pass their discount on to you."
That reads like we won't be able to claim our own £400 grant and can only hope the landlord shares £200. Doesn't really seem like a fair scheme, where everyone and anyone regardless of circumstance will get £400 grant, but because we don't have a separate electricity account we won't be entitled. I wonder if their will be a phone line for these issues.
If you can prove that you live in a separate building, with separate council tax etc, and a meter, but you can't have access to an account because of some arbitrary reason then you should be able to receive £400 like the rest of the consumers.
My situation is far from living in a shared house, so it's an irrelevant point and the scheme describes the stodgy thinking of British governments.
In your specific case, I'm right behind you. You should be a separately accounted for domestic connection and are only missing out because of an unusual topology of supply cables. That clearly shouldn't have been the intention of the scheme and you have every right to make noise about it.
The frustration is from unknowingly worsening my situation. The landlord did say they'd cover the standing charge, so I have to look at that as a £150 discount across the year instead.0 -
There are 28 million households in the UK - to get a scheme that would be equally beneficial to all would take about 10 years to implement.
The current scheme is a quick fix for as many people as possible - yes some people will miss out, but as these edge cases come up the government have said they will have a fund to try and address this.
I don't think this is stodgy thinking - the government could have done nothing.0 -
Hi,that separate electricity meter has nothing to do with the supplier, it is a private meter.If landlord wishes to share the £400, not necessarily 50/50, be grateful.0
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Just keep a track of whatever gets announced as support for park homes - I think that's the closest analogy to your situation that is already being discussed.throughtheblue said:
Apologies for misunderstanding your point.[Deleted User] said:
You mistake my point - I was replying to your general assertion that it's for "everyone and anyone".throughtheblue said:
I will have a separate electricity meter, separate building, separate council tax and paying for the electricity I'm using, just not via my own account. In my situation, the scheme looks like a complete joke.Deleted_User said:
Its not "everyone and anyone", it's "every domestic electricity account". Could you just imagine a shared house with one electricity meter, but every individual deciding they could get £400?throughtheblue said:
Found this on the gov's website...MWT said:So... the £400 plan is still happening and additionally this has also been said......the government will set up a fund for those using heating oil, living in park homes or those on heat networks so that all UK consumers can benefit from “equivalent support”.So the £400 will go to the landlord, but there may be help for those like you who do not have an energy account, but I have to say you are not in a clearly identifiable group so watch carefully to see if there is something you may need to register for...If the rest of the plan is delivered as a discount to the unit price as stated, then the landlord can only charge you the discounted price, as long as that is being received, which may not be the case if the landlord is on a fixed tariff...The Government hopes that there may also be discounts to the fixed tariffs after further discussion with suppliers...
"If you pay for your electricity as part of your rent -If your landlord has a domestic electricity contract with a licensed electricity supplier, and you pay for your electricity as part of your rent, your landlord may pass their discount on to you."
That reads like we won't be able to claim our own £400 grant and can only hope the landlord shares £200. Doesn't really seem like a fair scheme, where everyone and anyone regardless of circumstance will get £400 grant, but because we don't have a separate electricity account we won't be entitled. I wonder if their will be a phone line for these issues.
If you can prove that you live in a separate building, with separate council tax etc, and a meter, but you can't have access to an account because of some arbitrary reason then you should be able to receive £400 like the rest of the consumers.
My situation is far from living in a shared house, so it's an irrelevant point and the scheme describes the stodgy thinking of British governments.
In your specific case, I'm right behind you. You should be a separately accounted for domestic connection and are only missing out because of an unusual topology of supply cables. That clearly shouldn't have been the intention of the scheme and you have every right to make noise about it.
The frustration is from unknowingly worsening my situation. The landlord did say they'd cover the standing charge, so I have to look at that as a £150 discount across the year instead.0 -
throughtheblue said:
I will have a separate electricity meter, separate building, separate council tax and paying for the electricity I'm using, just not via my own account. In my situation, the scheme looks like a complete joke.Deleted_User said:
Its not "everyone and anyone", it's "every domestic electricity account". Could you just imagine a shared house with one electricity meter, but every individual deciding they could get £400?throughtheblue said:
Found this on the gov's website...MWT said:So... the £400 plan is still happening and additionally this has also been said......the government will set up a fund for those using heating oil, living in park homes or those on heat networks so that all UK consumers can benefit from “equivalent support”.So the £400 will go to the landlord, but there may be help for those like you who do not have an energy account, but I have to say you are not in a clearly identifiable group so watch carefully to see if there is something you may need to register for...If the rest of the plan is delivered as a discount to the unit price as stated, then the landlord can only charge you the discounted price, as long as that is being received, which may not be the case if the landlord is on a fixed tariff...The Government hopes that there may also be discounts to the fixed tariffs after further discussion with suppliers...
"If you pay for your electricity as part of your rent -If your landlord has a domestic electricity contract with a licensed electricity supplier, and you pay for your electricity as part of your rent, your landlord may pass their discount on to you."
That reads like we won't be able to claim our own £400 grant and can only hope the landlord shares £200. Doesn't really seem like a fair scheme, where everyone and anyone regardless of circumstance will get £400 grant, but because we don't have a separate electricity account we won't be entitled. I wonder if their will be a phone line for these issues.
If you can prove that you live in a separate building, with separate council tax etc, and a meter, but you can't have access to an account because of some arbitrary reason then you should be able to receive £400 like the rest of the consumers.
My situation is far from living in a shared house, so it's an irrelevant point and the scheme describes the stodgy thinking of British governments.Doing it for every domestic energy account is an easy way to capture most people without expensive admin costs. If they had to setup a team to review account induvidually then that would increase the cost massively and end up the money being paid out too late for the extra costs of winter heating.You should be venting your annoyance towards your landlord who lazily daisy chained the supply from his own electricity supply instead of making it officially a seperate meter with a seperate energy account.1 -
It was originally a holiday let, which may be why the setup is as such. I'm unsure if a new account can be established with as their is a meter, but it was installed by the landlord (whether that makes a difference), or if something else would need to happen.RogerBareford said:throughtheblue said:
I will have a separate electricity meter, separate building, separate council tax and paying for the electricity I'm using, just not via my own account. In my situation, the scheme looks like a complete joke.Deleted_User said:
Its not "everyone and anyone", it's "every domestic electricity account". Could you just imagine a shared house with one electricity meter, but every individual deciding they could get £400?throughtheblue said:
Found this on the gov's website...MWT said:So... the £400 plan is still happening and additionally this has also been said......the government will set up a fund for those using heating oil, living in park homes or those on heat networks so that all UK consumers can benefit from “equivalent support”.So the £400 will go to the landlord, but there may be help for those like you who do not have an energy account, but I have to say you are not in a clearly identifiable group so watch carefully to see if there is something you may need to register for...If the rest of the plan is delivered as a discount to the unit price as stated, then the landlord can only charge you the discounted price, as long as that is being received, which may not be the case if the landlord is on a fixed tariff...The Government hopes that there may also be discounts to the fixed tariffs after further discussion with suppliers...
"If you pay for your electricity as part of your rent -If your landlord has a domestic electricity contract with a licensed electricity supplier, and you pay for your electricity as part of your rent, your landlord may pass their discount on to you."
That reads like we won't be able to claim our own £400 grant and can only hope the landlord shares £200. Doesn't really seem like a fair scheme, where everyone and anyone regardless of circumstance will get £400 grant, but because we don't have a separate electricity account we won't be entitled. I wonder if their will be a phone line for these issues.
If you can prove that you live in a separate building, with separate council tax etc, and a meter, but you can't have access to an account because of some arbitrary reason then you should be able to receive £400 like the rest of the consumers.
My situation is far from living in a shared house, so it's an irrelevant point and the scheme describes the stodgy thinking of British governments.Doing it for every domestic energy account is an easy way to capture most people without expensive admin costs. If they had to setup a team to review account induvidually then that would increase the cost massively and end up the money being paid out too late for the extra costs of winter heating.You should be venting your annoyance towards your landlord who lazily daisy chained the supply from his own electricity supply instead of making it officially a seperate meter with a seperate energy account.0 -
What's your actual arrangement with the landlord regarding paying utilities? if he's only passing on actual costs then if he gets the grant it should be passed on to you. Does the property actually have a separate account for energy supply or is it all based on the main house - in which case there may well not be a £400 to argue over.throughtheblue said:
It was originally a holiday let, which may be why the setup is as such. I'm unsure if a new account can be established with as their is a meter, but it was installed by the landlord (whether that makes a difference), or if something else would need to happen.RogerBareford said:throughtheblue said:
I will have a separate electricity meter, separate building, separate council tax and paying for the electricity I'm using, just not via my own account. In my situation, the scheme looks like a complete joke.Deleted_User said:
Its not "everyone and anyone", it's "every domestic electricity account". Could you just imagine a shared house with one electricity meter, but every individual deciding they could get £400?throughtheblue said:
Found this on the gov's website...MWT said:So... the £400 plan is still happening and additionally this has also been said......the government will set up a fund for those using heating oil, living in park homes or those on heat networks so that all UK consumers can benefit from “equivalent support”.So the £400 will go to the landlord, but there may be help for those like you who do not have an energy account, but I have to say you are not in a clearly identifiable group so watch carefully to see if there is something you may need to register for...If the rest of the plan is delivered as a discount to the unit price as stated, then the landlord can only charge you the discounted price, as long as that is being received, which may not be the case if the landlord is on a fixed tariff...The Government hopes that there may also be discounts to the fixed tariffs after further discussion with suppliers...
"If you pay for your electricity as part of your rent -If your landlord has a domestic electricity contract with a licensed electricity supplier, and you pay for your electricity as part of your rent, your landlord may pass their discount on to you."
That reads like we won't be able to claim our own £400 grant and can only hope the landlord shares £200. Doesn't really seem like a fair scheme, where everyone and anyone regardless of circumstance will get £400 grant, but because we don't have a separate electricity account we won't be entitled. I wonder if their will be a phone line for these issues.
If you can prove that you live in a separate building, with separate council tax etc, and a meter, but you can't have access to an account because of some arbitrary reason then you should be able to receive £400 like the rest of the consumers.
My situation is far from living in a shared house, so it's an irrelevant point and the scheme describes the stodgy thinking of British governments.Doing it for every domestic energy account is an easy way to capture most people without expensive admin costs. If they had to setup a team to review account induvidually then that would increase the cost massively and end up the money being paid out too late for the extra costs of winter heating.You should be venting your annoyance towards your landlord who lazily daisy chained the supply from his own electricity supply instead of making it officially a seperate meter with a seperate energy account.0 -
Due to move in shortly, but we will submit our readings at the end of the month to the landlord and pay them for the energy we've used. They live opposite, and the supply is via their account/house, so they will receive £400.tightauldgit said:
What's your actual arrangement with the landlord regarding paying utilities? if he's only passing on actual costs then if he gets the grant it should be passed on to you. Does the property actually have a separate account for energy supply or is it all based on the main house - in which case there may well not be a £400 to argue over.
I'm unsure if a new account could be made, or if there are complications to this and depend on how the original energy to the property was set up.
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Hi,a new account, would require a completely new supply line, would cost hundreds, would you be willing to pay for that?
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