Ev charging cost

Krakkkers

Looking at economics of diesel vs EV and it looks now that EVs are the expensive option.
My diesel focus does 55 mpg which works out at 6.7p per mile but an EV averaging 3.5 miles per kwh @52p cap is 14p per mile and 21p from January.

Krakkkers

Made a mistake 55mpg is actually 14p per mile so the same as an EV at Octobers price.

pochase

You are also not taking EV tariffs into account.

Octopus go is 7.5p for night charging.

Krakkkers

How much do the superchargers 200kw plus charge per kwh?
Just trying to work out if an EV would help me.

Astria

Krakkkers said:

Looking at economics of diesel vs EV and it looks now that EVs are the expensive option.
My diesel focus does 55 mpg which works out at 6.7p per mile but an EV averaging 3.5 miles per kwh @52p cap is 14p per mile and 21p from January.

Mind explaining how you got 6.7p/mile ?

When  I worked out my car @ 55mpg I got 16p/mile.

Krakkkers

I corrected it below.

EssexHebridean

pochase said:

You are also not taking EV tariffs into account.

Octopus go is 7.5p for night charging.

Increasing numbers of people we're seeing on here don't see to have managed to get on those tariffs though - and this is going to make saving the planet way too expensive for a lot of folk, going forwards. Bad enough come October, but looking at the projections  for a few cap-revisions' time I can genuinely see people needing to park these vehicles up because they simply can't afford to use them.

It's going to be incredibly interesting to see whether sales of EVs tank over the next few months. 

pcgtron

My eV averages 4.2 miles per Kwh (1 year average, 18000 miles driving) and I have been paying 5p per kwh for charging (octopus go) which worked out at 1.2 pence per mile. I'm now paying 7.5 pence kwh so that works out at 1.8 pence per mile.
Home charging is still much cheaper if you're on an eV tariff. If you're not on a tariff, or using public chargers, then the cost gap is closing 

MWT

EssexHebridean said:

Increasing numbers of people we're seeing on here don't see to have managed to get on those tariffs though - and this is going to make saving the planet way too expensive for a lot of folk, going forwards. 

If you have an EV, a home charger and a smart meter then the current 'Go' tariffs are significantly cheaper than the October cap for day use and dramatically cheaper over night so I fail to see why people wouldn't be on an EV tariff, there are no road blocks from the Octopus end...

EssexHebridean said:

Bad enough come October, but looking at the projections  for a few cap-revisions' time I can genuinely see people needing to park these vehicles up because they simply can't afford to use them.

If you can't have a home charger, and don't have access to workplace charging then you do have a point, this remains a general problem to be solved, but it is a problem right now, so EV ownership isn't for everyone yet...

EssexHebridean said:

It's going to be incredibly interesting to see whether sales of EVs tank over the next few months. 

Highly unlikely, most EV manufacturers have full order-books for the next 12 months or so, demand still exceeds supply, so you will not see any short term downturn in EV registrations.

tripled

A new 135hp Renault Zoe claims to do 236 miles on 52kwh, which would cost around £27 to charge at the more expensive commercial chargers, or at full domestic rate after the October cap increases (11.5p/mile). However, it would only cost around £4 on Octopus Go, which equates to around 1.7 p/mile.

A new 145hp Renault Clio claims to do 78.5mpg which at current petrol prices near me, at a more expensive petrol station (189.9 per litre) would equate to 10.9 p/mile, or at the cheapest (171.9) works out at 9.9 p/mile.

If you can charge overnight on a domestic EV tariff, the cost of "fuel" per mile is still significantly cheaper.

C225

MWT said:

EssexHebridean said:

Increasing numbers of people we're seeing on here don't see to have managed to get on those tariffs though - and this is going to make saving the planet way too expensive for a lot of folk, going forwards. 

If you have an EV, a home charger and a smart meter then the current 'Go' tariffs are significantly cheaper than the October cap for day use and dramatically cheaper over night so I fail to see why people wouldn't be on an EV tariff, there are no road blocks from the Octopus end...

Unless you don't have a compatible smart meter and Octopus refuse to upgrade it to one that is compatible as is my situation