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Fear I’m gonna get hit with a big housing benefit overpayment?

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  • calcotti
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    You should challenge the deduction for any period before he reached 18.
    The relevant regulation is here
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • n1guy
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    calcotti said:
    You should challenge the deduction for any period before he reached 18.
    The relevant regulation is here
    That says page not found?
  • Alice_Holt
    Alice_Holt Posts: 6,094 Forumite
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    edited 24 August 2022 at 3:26PM
    n1guy said:
    n1guy said:

     

    ..... he was working full time from August 2020 this meant that a non-dependent charge applied for him resulting in the overpayment you received.

         Note that calcotti has previously advised you that:

       The 16 year is a non dependent but there are no HB deductions for a non dependant aged below 18.

      
    What age was your son at Aug 20  ?

      If under 18 then you may wish to appeal that element of the overpayment relating to the non-dependent charge applied for him (as also advised in this thread).
    He was 16, yes I get that advice but everyone is dismissing it when I’ve mentioned it to both CAB and Housing Benefit 
             In other words you are happy to go with what your HB dept are saying (have they provided you with a link to guidance / legislation that you can share with us, as calcotti did?) and you are going to pay all the HB overpayment demanded, ignoring the advice knowledgeable forumites have given you in your thread. 

            It seems a pointless exercise to start the thread, if you are not going to take any account of the information and links forumites have provided you.  

         Here is another link that you can ignore because "everyone is dismissing it" :

       "
    Who counts as a non-dependant

    A non-dependant is a person who:

    • resides with you; and
    • is over 18; and
    • is not your partner or dependent child; and
    • is not liable for paying the rent (or council tax for Council Tax Support/Reduction)

    Non-dependants are often people like grown-up sons and daughters or elderly relatives."

       https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/non-dependants



    I can only hope that your thread might be helpful for others reading it.

    Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.
  • n1guy
    n1guy Posts: 705 Forumite
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    n1guy said:
    n1guy said:

     

    ..... he was working full time from August 2020 this meant that a non-dependent charge applied for him resulting in the overpayment you received.

         Note that calcotti has previously advised you that:

       The 16 year is a non dependent but there are no HB deductions for a non dependant aged below 18.

      
    What age was your son at Aug 20  ?

      If under 18 then you may wish to appeal that element of the overpayment relating to the non-dependent charge applied for him (as also advised in this thread).
    He was 16, yes I get that advice but everyone is dismissing it when I’ve mentioned it to both CAB and Housing Benefit 
             In other words you are happy to go with what your HB dept are saying (have they provided you with a link to guidance / legislation that you can share with us, as calcotti did?) and you are going to pay all the HB overpayment demanded, ignoring the advice knowledgeable forumites have given you in your thread. 

            It seems a pointless exercise to start the thread, if you are not going to take any account of the information and links forumites have provided you.  

         Here is another link that you can ignore because "everyone is dismissing it" :

       "Who counts as a non-dependant

    A non-dependant is a person who:

    • resides with you; and
    • is over 18; and
    • is not your partner or dependent child; and
    • is not liable for paying the rent (or council tax for Council Tax Support/Reduction)

    Non-dependants are often people like grown-up sons and daughters or elderly relatives."

       https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/non-dependants



    I can only hope that your thread might be helpful for others reading it.

    I am not dismissing it. I don’t know what to do. How do I respond to there email?
  • Alice_Holt
    Alice_Holt Posts: 6,094 Forumite
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    edited 24 August 2022 at 3:37PM
    n1guy said:
    n1guy said:
    n1guy said:

     

    ..... he was working full time from August 2020 this meant that a non-dependent charge applied for him resulting in the overpayment you received.

         Note that calcotti has previously advised you that:

       The 16 year is a non dependent but there are no HB deductions for a non dependant aged below 18.

      
    What age was your son at Aug 20  ?

      If under 18 then you may wish to appeal that element of the overpayment relating to the non-dependent charge applied for him (as also advised in this thread).
    He was 16, yes I get that advice but everyone is dismissing it when I’ve mentioned it to both CAB and Housing Benefit 
             In other words you are happy to go with what your HB dept are saying (have they provided you with a link to guidance / legislation that you can share with us, as calcotti did?) and you are going to pay all the HB overpayment demanded, ignoring the advice knowledgeable forumites have given you in your thread. 

            It seems a pointless exercise to start the thread, if you are not going to take any account of the information and links forumites have provided you.  

         Here is another link that you can ignore because "everyone is dismissing it" :

       "Who counts as a non-dependant

    A non-dependant is a person who:

    • resides with you; and
    • is over 18; and
    • is not your partner or dependent child; and
    • is not liable for paying the rent (or council tax for Council Tax Support/Reduction)

    Non-dependants are often people like grown-up sons and daughters or elderly relatives."

       https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/non-dependants



    I can only hope that your thread might be helpful for others reading it.

    I am not dismissing it. I don’t know what to do. How do I respond to there email?
         https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Challenging-a-Housing-Benefit-decision/Appeal-against-the-decision

    If you are serious about this (I'm assuming you are not being deliberately trollish),  I suggest you follow the advice calcotti has given you above @ 3,05pm. The revelant links worked perfectly for me.
    Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.
  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 36,484 Forumite
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    It's no use just mentioning it. You need to follow the correct complaints/appeal processes, quoting the link that Calcotti gave you and pointing out there is no deduction for a  non-dependant under 18.
    You could also consider getting your local councillor involved? 
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • n1guy
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    n1guy said:
    n1guy said:
    n1guy said:

     

    ..... he was working full time from August 2020 this meant that a non-dependent charge applied for him resulting in the overpayment you received.

         Note that calcotti has previously advised you that:

       The 16 year is a non dependent but there are no HB deductions for a non dependant aged below 18.

      
    What age was your son at Aug 20  ?

      If under 18 then you may wish to appeal that element of the overpayment relating to the non-dependent charge applied for him (as also advised in this thread).
    He was 16, yes I get that advice but everyone is dismissing it when I’ve mentioned it to both CAB and Housing Benefit 
             In other words you are happy to go with what your HB dept are saying (have they provided you with a link to guidance / legislation that you can share with us, as calcotti did?) and you are going to pay all the HB overpayment demanded, ignoring the advice knowledgeable forumites have given you in your thread. 

            It seems a pointless exercise to start the thread, if you are not going to take any account of the information and links forumites have provided you.  

         Here is another link that you can ignore because "everyone is dismissing it" :

       "Who counts as a non-dependant

    A non-dependant is a person who:

    • resides with you; and
    • is over 18; and
    • is not your partner or dependent child; and
    • is not liable for paying the rent (or council tax for Council Tax Support/Reduction)

    Non-dependants are often people like grown-up sons and daughters or elderly relatives."

       https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/non-dependants



    I can only hope that your thread might be helpful for others reading it.

    I am not dismissing it. I don’t know what to do. How do I respond to there email?
         https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Challenging-a-Housing-Benefit-decision/Appeal-against-the-decision

    If you are serious about this (I'm assuming you are not being deliberately trollish),  I suggest you follow the advice calcotti has given you above @ 3,05pm. The revelant links worked perfectly for me.
    I’m not trolling I genuinely don’t have a clue. I replied to them stating the above advice. I await the reply
  • calcotti
    calcotti Posts: 15,696 Forumite
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    n1guy said:
    calcotti said:
    You should challenge the deduction for any period before he reached 18.
    The relevant regulation is here
    That says page not found?
    Both links work when I click them - which one are you having trouble with?
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • n1guy
    n1guy Posts: 705 Forumite
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    calcotti said:
    n1guy said:
    calcotti said:
    You should challenge the deduction for any period before he reached 18.
    The relevant regulation is here
    That says page not found?
    Both links work when I click them - which one are you having trouble with?
    Worked second time I tried thanks.  If this doesn’t make any difference it must be some other issue around the child benefit stopping as I can’t see how they can argue this non dependent thing
  • poppy12345
    poppy12345 Posts: 18,906 Forumite
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    n1guy said:
    calcotti said:
    n1guy said:
    calcotti said:
    You should challenge the deduction for any period before he reached 18.
    The relevant regulation is here
    That says page not found?
    Both links work when I click them - which one are you having trouble with?
    Worked second time I tried thanks.  If this doesn’t make any difference it must be some other issue around the child benefit stopping as I can’t see how they can argue this non dependent thing

    There would be no "other issue" your LA are simply not correct when they tell you there's a deduction for the non dependant. You either challenge that decision by requesting the MR or you accept it and pay what they say you owe. There's really no other advice anyone can give because over 5 pages long the advice has remained the same.
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