UKPC / DCB Legal - Part 2 - I WON IN COURT

IloveElephants

Fruitcake said:

The location is a pub called Jack Straw's Castle, North End Way, Hampstead, NW3.

There was another thread about this site but I don't believe the poster ever came back with an update.

Photo in daylight from GSV, 

Hi Fruitcake, thanks for your reply,

You are correct, that is the location. Someone mentioned it before on this forum but sadly did not come back and have not logged in so I cannot ask them how they got on. 

IloveElephants

patient_dream said:

IloveElephants said:

patient_dream said:

IloveElephants said:

The pcn was issued on private land or managed by C. 
The vehicle was parked in breached of the terms and C signs. (the contract)
thus incurring the PCNS. 
4. the driver agreed to pay within 8 days but did not. D Is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests the PCNS 
is outstanding. The contract entitles C to damages. 
AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS
1. £340 Being the total of the PCNS and damages
2. interest at a rate of 8% per year per annum pursuant to 69 of the county court act 1984. 
3. Costs a court fees.

Signed Yasmin Mia 

We don't know why Yasmin Mia is not locked up for contempt of court

£340 is a complete lie and DAMAGES is the biggest load of rubbish ?
Yasmin must tell the truth, not a fabrication of DCBL

Hi Patient dream,
thanks for your reply, outrageous,

£530 IN TOTAL. Amount claimed £430
court fee £50
Legal representative costs £50

And the so called damages are £140 ??  

This must be a spelling mistake by DCBL ...... We already know the correct spelling is "fake debt recovery charge" or "fake scam"

DAMAGES ...... who gets the amount ?  Cannot be DCBL as no damage has been done to them ? ..   Was UKPC the landowner or just a simple manager ?  If they were  kicked out, they certainly were not the landowner

The real landowner should be alerted that a legal is working on their behalf and money is on the way ?

Of course in your case, how would they explain this to a judge because as eggs are eggs UKPC are not entitled to damages and nor are DCBL

The real landowner should be alerted that a legal is working on their behalf and money is on the way ?

If anyone knows who the owner of Jacks straws castle is and was in Sep/Oct 2019 please let me know, I will contact them as well and inform them what is happening.  

Jenni_D

Is there a breakdown of that £430 claimed? How many PCNs?

IloveElephants

Jenni_D said:

Is there a breakdown of that £430 claimed? How many PCNs?

Hi Jenni, thanks for your comment

2 pcns from 2019 


£530 IN TOTAL. Amount claimed £430
court fee £50
Legal representative costs £50

total amount £530


In my opinion because they did not have a leg to stand on on the other case (see my previous thread) they have added those  pcn to this court claim. 

IloveElephants

Just some of my main defence points

They did not install adequate signage and the signage on the wall was hardly visible on a cold frosty night in October 2019.

A high top van was parked next to me before I entered the carpark thus obstructing the sign. (see first image uploaded where the small blue car is parked) 
No signs on entrance
the building is sat empty
they currently do not managed the land (some local shop keeper said they have been booted out because ukpc were issuing tickets incorrectly )
no contract was agreed to 
no damages have occurred

Thanks

Jenni_D

So they haven't broken down the £430 ....

2x PCNs would be £200 (£100 each)
2x Debt recovery (scam) would usually be £140 (£70 each)

That makes £340 ... where has the other £90 come from?

patient_dream

IloveElephants said:

patient_dream said:

IloveElephants said:

patient_dream said:

IloveElephants said:

The pcn was issued on private land or managed by C. 
The vehicle was parked in breached of the terms and C signs. (the contract)
thus incurring the PCNS. 
4. the driver agreed to pay within 8 days but did not. D Is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests the PCNS 
is outstanding. The contract entitles C to damages. 
AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS
1. £340 Being the total of the PCNS and damages
2. interest at a rate of 8% per year per annum pursuant to 69 of the county court act 1984. 
3. Costs a court fees.

Signed Yasmin Mia 

We don't know why Yasmin Mia is not locked up for contempt of court

£340 is a complete lie and DAMAGES is the biggest load of rubbish ?
Yasmin must tell the truth, not a fabrication of DCBL

Hi Patient dream,
thanks for your reply, outrageous,

£530 IN TOTAL. Amount claimed £430
court fee £50
Legal representative costs £50

And the so called damages are £140 ??  

This must be a spelling mistake by DCBL ...... We already know the correct spelling is "fake debt recovery charge" or "fake scam"

DAMAGES ...... who gets the amount ?  Cannot be DCBL as no damage has been done to them ? ..   Was UKPC the landowner or just a simple manager ?  If they were  kicked out, they certainly were not the landowner

The real landowner should be alerted that a legal is working on their behalf and money is on the way ?

Of course in your case, how would they explain this to a judge because as eggs are eggs UKPC are not entitled to damages and nor are DCBL

The real landowner should be alerted that a legal is working on their behalf and money is on the way ?

If anyone knows who the owner of Jacks straws castle is and was in Sep/Oct 2019 please let me know, I will contact them as well and inform them what is happening.  

You can read this 
https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/albany-homes-seeks-buyer-for-jack-straws-castle-ground-floor-3643506

Plus you can do a FOI request to Hamstead council
Easy to do from "What do they know" site
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/

I have used them, they are good as it's free

IloveElephants

Jenni_D said:

So they haven't broken down the £430 ....

2x PCNs would be £200 (£100 each)
2x Debt recovery (scam) would usually be £140 (£70 each)

That makes £340 ... where has the other £90 come from?

Hi Jenni,

We know too well that these companies are not ethical and we need to call them exactly what they are, scam merchants and thief's. As mentioned before because they closed the previous claim "see my old thread" they added it to this claim indirectly 

IloveElephants

patient_dream said:

IloveElephants said:

patient_dream said:

IloveElephants said:

patient_dream said:

IloveElephants said:

The pcn was issued on private land or managed by C. 
The vehicle was parked in breached of the terms and C signs. (the contract)
thus incurring the PCNS. 
4. the driver agreed to pay within 8 days but did not. D Is liable as the driver or keeper. Despite requests the PCNS 
is outstanding. The contract entitles C to damages. 
AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS
1. £340 Being the total of the PCNS and damages
2. interest at a rate of 8% per year per annum pursuant to 69 of the county court act 1984. 
3. Costs a court fees.

Signed Yasmin Mia 

We don't know why Yasmin Mia is not locked up for contempt of court

£340 is a complete lie and DAMAGES is the biggest load of rubbish ?
Yasmin must tell the truth, not a fabrication of DCBL

Hi Patient dream,
thanks for your reply, outrageous,

£530 IN TOTAL. Amount claimed £430
court fee £50
Legal representative costs £50

And the so called damages are £140 ??  

This must be a spelling mistake by DCBL ...... We already know the correct spelling is "fake debt recovery charge" or "fake scam"

DAMAGES ...... who gets the amount ?  Cannot be DCBL as no damage has been done to them ? ..   Was UKPC the landowner or just a simple manager ?  If they were  kicked out, they certainly were not the landowner

The real landowner should be alerted that a legal is working on their behalf and money is on the way ?

Of course in your case, how would they explain this to a judge because as eggs are eggs UKPC are not entitled to damages and nor are DCBL

The real landowner should be alerted that a legal is working on their behalf and money is on the way ?

If anyone knows who the owner of Jacks straws castle is and was in Sep/Oct 2019 please let me know, I will contact them as well and inform them what is happening.  

You can read this 
https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/albany-homes-seeks-buyer-for-jack-straws-castle-ground-floor-3643506

Plus you can do a FOI request to Hamstead council
Easy to do from "What do they know" site
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/

I have used them, they are good as it's free

Hi Patient dream, thanks for your comment, 

I will do a FOI request to Hampstead council/ Camden council. Asking them who owned JS Castle at that time. 


Thank you

Le_Kirk

IloveElephants said:

Just some of my main defence points

They did not install adequate signage and the signage on the wall was hardly visible on a cold frosty night in October 2019.

A high top van was parked next to me before I entered the carpark thus obstructing the sign. (see first image uploaded where the small blue car is parked) 
No signs on entrance
the building is sat empty
they currently do not managed the land (some local shop keeper said they have been booted out because ukpc were issuing tickets incorrectly )
no contract was agreed to 
no damages have occurred

Inability to see signage is relevant.  It being a cold and frosty night is irrelevant; being a dark night in October would be more relevant!  No entrance sign is relevant.  Signs being obscured by high vehicles is relevant; if they allow high sided vehicles to be parked in the car park, they should make sure signs are visible to ALL vehicle drivers at all times.