is my neighbour trespassing

DanDare999

worried123 said:

ashe said:

Can you not just put a lock on your gate with a combination lock so you don't need to carry a key?

I did buy a padlock the other day...i could keep the key on my keyring with other keys.....i would imagine she would bust the gate open though and then at least i have it on  camera and can contact the police...she is a total violation of my life basically....i just read on the police web site where they give you tips on keeping safe... that anybody crossing your boundary (uninvited...who should not be there) is trespassing..
Abba fan is right - how would delivery people access...the postman cuts across both places anyway and would use her gate....i would know if i am expecting a delivery and obviously know when people are visiting.......my only worry regarding a padlock is whether she will do anything insane or key my car again.....
it does have to be a fence right down (as its at the front it can only be 3 foot apparently...sadly) or i have to move....

OP what county do you live in and who is your local police force?

You need to get in touch with a Public Protection Unit, Harm Hub, Vulnerable Persons Unit or whatever your locals call it. They need to complete a risk assessment on both you and the neighbour and create a Risk Management Plan or Problem Solving Plan to address the issue. 

Bendy_House

DanDare999 said:

It's easy for you to say that sat behind your keyboard, in reality I think it's a bit beyond the OP at this moment in time and they need the authorities to stand up to the neighbour. 

You NEED the authorities involved - that's what I'm saying.

This person isn't going to stop JUST because Worried tells her to.

What Worried should be doing is to draw a line. She needs to make it CLEAR, so it's unambiguous, what this person needs to stop doing. At the moment, this person has convinced themselves they are doing nothing wrong. Whether they truly believe that is open to debate, but it is what they will assert.

And Worried should record everything - proper recordings if possible, but a retrospective log if not.

I might be behind my keyboard now, but what I say is born from personal experience.

sienew

Bendy_House said:

DanDare999 said:

It's easy for you to say that sat behind your keyboard, in reality I think it's a bit beyond the OP at this moment in time and they need the authorities to stand up to the neighbour. 

You NEED the authorities involved - that's what I'm saying.

This person isn't going to stop JUST because Worried tells her to.

What Worried should be doing is to draw a line. She needs to make it CLEAR, so it's unambiguous, what this person needs to stop doing. At the moment, this person has convinced themselves they are doing nothing wrong. Whether they truly believe that is open to debate, but it is what they will assert.

And Worried should record everything - proper recordings if possible, but a retrospective log if not.

I might be behind my keyboard now, but what I say is born from personal experience.

Doesn't a physical fence draw an actual line between worried and their neighbour? Physical space, barrier and distance between the two. Even the current issue, the neighbour walking through their land should be solved with the fence, using worried's access out of convenience is quite different to them jumping even a small fence. Add more CCTV if the current isn't up to standard so if anything negative comes from this you have clear proof.

DanDare999

Bendy_House said:

DanDare999 said:

It's easy for you to say that sat behind your keyboard, in reality I think it's a bit beyond the OP at this moment in time and they need the authorities to stand up to the neighbour. 

You NEED the authorities involved - that's what I'm saying.

This person isn't going to stop JUST because Worried tells her to.

What Worried should be doing is to draw a line. She needs to make it CLEAR, so it's unambiguous, what this person needs to stop doing. At the moment, this person has convinced themselves they are doing nothing wrong. Whether they truly believe that is open to debate, but it is what they will assert.

And Worried should record everything - proper recordings if possible, but a retrospective log if not.

I might be behind my keyboard now, but what I say is born from personal experience.

No, the authorities should be doing that. If the OP had the confidence to do it they wouldn't be here.

You sit behind your keyboard and regurgitate the same advice under both your usernames. 

Abbafan1972

@worried123 you definitely need to involve the authorities on this one. 

Are there any other neighbours that you’re friendly with, that would be able to back you up and offer support? 

Bendy_House

DanDare999 said:

Bendy_House said:

DanDare999 said:

It's easy for you to say that sat behind your keyboard, in reality I think it's a bit beyond the OP at this moment in time and they need the authorities to stand up to the neighbour. 

You NEED the authorities involved - that's what I'm saying.

This person isn't going to stop JUST because Worried tells her to.

What Worried should be doing is to draw a line. She needs to make it CLEAR, so it's unambiguous, what this person needs to stop doing. At the moment, this person has convinced themselves they are doing nothing wrong. Whether they truly believe that is open to debate, but it is what they will assert.

And Worried should record everything - proper recordings if possible, but a retrospective log if not.

I might be behind my keyboard now, but what I say is born from personal experience.

No, the authorities should be doing that. If the OP had the confidence to do it they wouldn't be here.

You sit behind your keyboard and regurgitate the same advice under both your usernames. 

"So, Mrs Worried - what's the problem?"

"It's my neighbour - she trespasses across my lawn."

"Ok. Have you asked her why? And to not do so?"

"No, 'cos DanDare said not to - that's your job."

GDB2222

I’m curious about why it matters so much that scary lady walks across worried's garden? Postie does it, and that’s fine with worried. Scary lady does it because it’s a shortcut. It’s a bit rude, I agree. Well, very rude, but it’s liveable with rudeness. 

Sleazy

Abbafan1972 said:

ashe said:

Can you not just put a lock on your gate with a combination lock so you don't need to carry a key?

How would delivery people get in then? 

They could go through her gate! 

Bendy_House

GDB2222 said:

I’m curious about why it matters so much that scary lady walks across worried's garden? Postie does it, and that’s fine with worried. Scary lady does it because it’s a shortcut. It’s a bit rude, I agree. Well, very rude, but it’s liveable with rudeness. 

Have you read the whole thread, GDB?

Based on what the OP has described, this isn't just a case of a lady walking across someone else's garden. It's a culmination of issues which should constitute nuisance if not actual harassment.

The OP has been a bit coy on detail, tho', such as what she's done about it so far. 

DanDare999

Bendy_House said:

DanDare999 said:

Bendy_House said:

DanDare999 said:

It's easy for you to say that sat behind your keyboard, in reality I think it's a bit beyond the OP at this moment in time and they need the authorities to stand up to the neighbour. 

You NEED the authorities involved - that's what I'm saying.

This person isn't going to stop JUST because Worried tells her to.

What Worried should be doing is to draw a line. She needs to make it CLEAR, so it's unambiguous, what this person needs to stop doing. At the moment, this person has convinced themselves they are doing nothing wrong. Whether they truly believe that is open to debate, but it is what they will assert.

And Worried should record everything - proper recordings if possible, but a retrospective log if not.

I might be behind my keyboard now, but what I say is born from personal experience.

No, the authorities should be doing that. If the OP had the confidence to do it they wouldn't be here.

You sit behind your keyboard and regurgitate the same advice under both your usernames. 

"So, Mrs Worried - what's the problem?"

"It's my neighbour - she trespasses across my lawn."

"Ok. Have you asked her why? And to not do so?"

"No, 'cos DanDare said not to - that's your job."

Bendy_House said:

GDB2222 said:

I’m curious about why it matters so much that scary lady walks across worried's garden? Postie does it, and that’s fine with worried. Scary lady does it because it’s a shortcut. It’s a bit rude, I agree. Well, very rude, but it’s liveable with rudeness. 

Have you read the whole thread, GDB?

Based on what the OP has described, this isn't just a case of a lady walking across someone else's garden. It's a culmination of issues which should constitute nuisance if not actual harassment.

The OP has been a bit coy on detail, tho', such as what she's done about it so far. 

Jeepers why do you post like this?

You accept there's an ongoing harassment, the police will think it's acceptable for the OP not to want any contact or to confront the neighbour given the circumstances so why do you keep repeating they should?

You claim personal experience, so how did you handle this when you were a cop?