Scottish Power Quoting Insane Increase - Ripping people off during crisis

DE_612183

Those look like two graphs for the same periods with different usage - and both have Gas & Electric - have you got two accounts?

TRON

EssexHebridean said:

TRON said:

It is a 100-125% increase on direct debit and 300% increase in estimated yearly usage compared to what we are paying now. The direct debit they are suggesting would not even cover the increase. 

Can you confirm what your previous annual usage was and what the new estimated annual use figure they are giving you is please - in kWh if you will - figures in £'s and p's mean nothing when it comes to this!  If for some reason they have suddenly started inflating the units you use per year in their estimates, and you have made no changes that would affect this, then have you asked them why the sudden increase in the annual use estimate? 

They not giving that info. This all I got. Found last years though.

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Last years usage.




Compared to what I am currently paying is INSANE increase. 

pochase

Just looking at the graphs you posted, you are over 200KWh electricity per month, so about 2500KWh per year. If you don't fix this alone will be on SVT in January with predicted prices of 65p per KWh plus standing charges about £1800 per annum, or £150 per months. That is without gas.

See what we calculated from the latest CI prediction in unit rates here.

EssexHebridean

OP - please just break it down - you have said you take meter readings monthly yourself so you have the records.

Gas - reading August 2021 
Gas - reading August 2022 
Electricity - Reading August 2021
Electricity - Reading August 2022

It's not overly complicated, and doesn't need pretty coloured graphs, just the straightforward numbers will allow people to offer their suggestions more effectively. 

If it helps - we currently use 4700 kWa p/a electric, 270kWh p/a gas - and I expect to be paying in excess of £150 per month, going forwards.  

The reason I asked about the suppliers estimated annual usage figure was that in your original post you said they had increased it by 300%? So presumably they have given it to you at some stage. 

Vegastare

If you paid £69 per month on fix  during this last year - we have winter 21 then increase happened now we have Octobers 22 price increase ahead.

Prior to October last year I paid £79 per monthly to Avro then transferred with Octopus it was £110 then they increased it to £180...with Octopus you can adjust monthly DD because you are not on a fix so but it at £150 am in credit under £50 as of July .

But I can understand if they come at me for £300 from this October minus the £66 from Boris - I am hopeful it will be around £240 with the minus.

No Scottish Power do not seem off with this sadly it is where we are at.

[Deleted User]

For fixed tariffs suppliers are allowed to offer what they want. If you think that a fixed tariff is over-priced then you have 2 options: one, reject the offer and remain on the Ofgem-Capped SVT or, two, try and find a cheaper fix with another supplier.

These are desperate times but refusing to pay really isn't an option. Suppliers have legal rights of entry to switch meters from credit to re-payment and, worse case, to take you Court.

My advice, FWiW, is vent your anger at your MP. He/she is in Parliament to represent your interests. Politely but firmly suggest that Parliament needs to be recalled to discuss what can be done. I should imagine that MPs' email boxes are over-flowing at the moment. They really need to know how unhappy people are about Government inaction this issue.

TRON

EssexHebridean said:

OP - please just break it down - you have said you take meter readings monthly yourself so you have the records.

Gas - reading August 2021 
Gas - reading August 2022 
Electricity - Reading August 2021
Electricity - Reading August 2022

It's not overly complicated, and doesn't need pretty coloured graphs, just the straightforward numbers will allow people to offer their suggestions more effectively. 

If it helps - we currently use 4700 kWa p/a electric, 270kWh p/a gas - and I expect to be paying in excess of £150 per month, going forwards.  

The reason I asked about the suppliers estimated annual usage figure was that in your original post you said they had increased it by 300%? So presumably they have given it to you at some stage. 

How is this? Data pulled direct from Scottish Power for my usage sept 20 - sept 21. Separated gas/electric as they don't show them separate on website. 



I mean you also clearly see the huge increase to what they offer now compared to what I have been paying for two years is an insane leap in unjustified charges. 

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What I paying now....

Section62

[Deleted User] said:

My advice, FWiW, is vent your anger at your MP. He/she is in Parliament to represent your interests. Politely but firmly suggest that Parliament needs to be recalled to discuss what can be done. I should imagine that MPs' email boxes are over-flowing at the moment. They really need to know how unhappy people are about Government inaction this issue.

What specific government action should be put in place for people who have had the benefit of low fixed prices (say from 2020) and are now coming to the end of those deals?

Should those deals be extended until the energy crisis is over and they can get another cheap fix?

Bill shock for people coming of fixes has been well publicised for months now....

Aylesbury_Duck

TRON said:

EssexHebridean said:

OP - please just break it down - you have said you take meter readings monthly yourself so you have the records.

Gas - reading August 2021 
Gas - reading August 2022 
Electricity - Reading August 2021
Electricity - Reading August 2022

It's not overly complicated, and doesn't need pretty coloured graphs, just the straightforward numbers will allow people to offer their suggestions more effectively. 

If it helps - we currently use 4700 kWa p/a electric, 270kWh p/a gas - and I expect to be paying in excess of £150 per month, going forwards.  

The reason I asked about the suppliers estimated annual usage figure was that in your original post you said they had increased it by 300%? So presumably they have given it to you at some stage. 

I mean you also clearly see the huge increase to what they offer now compared to what I have been paying for two years is an insane leap in unjustified charges. 

You keep throwing out emotive adjectives like "insane" and "unjustified", but the news has been full of stories about the energy crisis for months - almost a year, in fact.  There's nothing insane or unjustified about the prices.  They're very high, much higher than they were, but that doesn't make the increase unjustified.  Much of the energy we use is a finite resource with high demand - what do you expect to happen to prices when the resource gets squeezed and the demand rises?  Many of those bemoaning "insane" increases in fuel and energy costs are the same people that bask in the enormous increases in their property values over the years, increases they've done little to actually earn.  They're quite happy to cash in on those "insane and unjustified" prices when the time comes.  Supply and demand is great when it works in your favour, eh?

We can grumble about it as much as we like, but the bottom line is that, aside from any support government can provide for those most in need of support, the rest of us have to reduce our consumption if we want to limit our expenditure.  The silver lining to this crisis is that many more people are suddenly aware of just what energy profligacy is costing them.  People becoming much more aware of their consumption is a good thing, even if it's a very harsh lesson for many and a terrible one for those that genuinely cannot afford it.

[Deleted User]

Hi,

sounds like OP has had a very good 2 year fix and has avoided all price increases in that time, now he's into the real world.

Of course you can cancel your DD and refuse to pay, you might end up with a pre pay meter (if you don't top that up it disconnects), or maybe a warrant to bust your door and disconnect, whatever it wont help your credit score if you ever want a loan or mortgage, your choice.