Partner & I disagree on gazundering: fear of overpaying for house in bad economic times

lookstraightahead

alibean121 said:

lookstraightahead said:

silvercar said:

If I had to entertain the idea of gazundering pre-exchange for no reason other than the buyers trying it on, the retribution would cost them in the long run. 

They could forget any good will gestures like:

instructions for appliance
me leaving any blinds/curtains that I won't have use for
deep cleaning before I leave
etc 

Not sure that would make or break a deal. Who really wants someone else's secondhand curtains and doesn't everyone clean when they move in? Instructions might be useful but you can just get on the internet. Would rather have it all gone.
I think as a seller now you have to consider what's happening in the market. 

Oh gosh I’m buying my first house and would cry with joy if there were curtains left. Yeah you’d probably replace them eventually with ones you like but I’m not sure what I’m going to do initially - safety pin a bedsheet onto the curtain pole or something??

I mean it’s not a dealbreaker in a purchase this size clearly but still… 

I have been left some seriously manky curtains for sure.
The worst though was when my parents bought a property and there was a bit of a heated discussion over price and the vendor threatened to remove the carpet. Thank goodness they did as it was filthy and stank. 

I suppose you take your risks one way or the other but it wouldn't be a threat to my decision. Too many vendors think they are doing buyers a favour these days. 

YoungBlueEyes

@alibean121  What to do initially, in a real pinch - buy a bunch of newspapers and a pack of blutack. Cheap, effective, reusable. 

Bonniepurple

newatc said:

If you live in the house for a reasonable amount of time (years) the 15k will seem peanuts. I think we paid too much for the house we live in but love the place and couldn't care a fig about that possible overspend years ago.

This.  We probably overpaid by about 5 grand.  In the context of a £370k property.  I was prepared to pay more because, at the time, it was the only property on the market that met our specific requirements (towards the end of the stamp duty holiday).  10 months on from moving in (14 months from offer) and I had to think back as to what we paid versus what the asking price was!

Sarah1Mitty2

Woolsery said:

Why are you still offering the ridiculous sum of £780k for a small house if you think things are going to get so bad?

I suppose that's a naive question of the sort children ask, but I'm not clever enough to think of anything more complex.

Me, I'm hunkering down; no debts and no plans to spend big, so I don't necessarily disagree with your premise, just where your reasoning goes after that!

Yes, if you really think it is that bad now is the time to stay put and tighten the belt.

newsgroupmonkey_

alibean121 said:

lookstraightahead said:

silvercar said:

If I had to entertain the idea of gazundering pre-exchange for no reason other than the buyers trying it on, the retribution would cost them in the long run. 

They could forget any good will gestures like:

instructions for appliance
me leaving any blinds/curtains that I won't have use for
deep cleaning before I leave
etc 

Not sure that would make or break a deal. Who really wants someone else's secondhand curtains and doesn't everyone clean when they move in? Instructions might be useful but you can just get on the internet. Would rather have it all gone.
I think as a seller now you have to consider what's happening in the market. 

Oh gosh I’m buying my first house and would cry with joy if there were curtains left. Yeah you’d probably replace them eventually with ones you like but I’m not sure what I’m going to do initially - safety pin a bedsheet onto the curtain pole or something??

I mean it’s not a dealbreaker in a purchase this size clearly but still… 

I'm about to buy my 5th house.

as our vendor has no onward property, I'd be surprised if they didn't leave the curtains. I will certainly be very happy if they do.

We're leaving ours (having had them all dry cleaned) as they won't fit the new house.

Don't worry about the snobs who say you're wrong. I think it might say something about the houses they're buying.....

I'm always happy to find someone's old "rotten secondhand curtains", because as you say, it gives you a chance to decide what you want in the future.

As it happens, in this particular house, the vendor had sadly needed to go into a home. All the curtains were very thick made-to-measure hand-made affairs. We've replaced a couple of them, but the others are far better quality than we would normally have bought.

housebuyer143

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

alibean121 said:

lookstraightahead said:

silvercar said:

If I had to entertain the idea of gazundering pre-exchange for no reason other than the buyers trying it on, the retribution would cost them in the long run. 

They could forget any good will gestures like:

instructions for appliance
me leaving any blinds/curtains that I won't have use for
deep cleaning before I leave
etc 

Not sure that would make or break a deal. Who really wants someone else's secondhand curtains and doesn't everyone clean when they move in? Instructions might be useful but you can just get on the internet. Would rather have it all gone.
I think as a seller now you have to consider what's happening in the market. 

Oh gosh I’m buying my first house and would cry with joy if there were curtains left. Yeah you’d probably replace them eventually with ones you like but I’m not sure what I’m going to do initially - safety pin a bedsheet onto the curtain pole or something??

I mean it’s not a dealbreaker in a purchase this size clearly but still… 

I'm about to buy my 5th house.

as our vendor has no onward property, I'd be surprised if they didn't leave the curtains. I will certainly be very happy if they do.

We're leaving ours (having had them all dry cleaned) as they won't fit the new house.

Don't worry about the snobs who say you're wrong. I think it might say something about the houses they're buying.....

I'm always happy to find someone's old "rotten secondhand curtains", because as you say, it gives you a chance to decide what you want in the future.

As it happens, in this particular house, the vendor had sadly needed to go into a home. All the curtains were very thick made-to-measure hand-made affairs. We've replaced a couple of them, but the others are far better quality than we would normally have bought.

My seller in the first house I bought left me 4 garden chairs.... I still have them and use them 13 years later 🤣 one man's trash

I was super grestful for those chairs 

Sarah1Mitty2

Zerforax said:

silvercar said:

If I had to entertain the idea of gazundering pre-exchange for no reason other than the buyers trying it on, the retribution would cost them in the long run. 

They could forget any good will gestures like:

instructions for appliance
me leaving any blinds/curtains that I won't have use for
deep cleaning before I leave
etc 

People are funny for all sorts of reasons. Our sellers were nice to us through the process. In the end they had to pay £200 for a couple of indemnity policies and then all the "good will gestures" disappeared.

Like others have said, if the vendors are desperate they might have to swallow the price reduction. In most cases, it leaves a bad taste and if they can, they will pull out of the transaction.

That is quite sad.

newsgroupmonkey_

housebuyer143 said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

alibean121 said:

lookstraightahead said:

silvercar said:

If I had to entertain the idea of gazundering pre-exchange for no reason other than the buyers trying it on, the retribution would cost them in the long run. 

They could forget any good will gestures like:

instructions for appliance
me leaving any blinds/curtains that I won't have use for
deep cleaning before I leave
etc 

Not sure that would make or break a deal. Who really wants someone else's secondhand curtains and doesn't everyone clean when they move in? Instructions might be useful but you can just get on the internet. Would rather have it all gone.
I think as a seller now you have to consider what's happening in the market. 

Oh gosh I’m buying my first house and would cry with joy if there were curtains left. Yeah you’d probably replace them eventually with ones you like but I’m not sure what I’m going to do initially - safety pin a bedsheet onto the curtain pole or something??

I mean it’s not a dealbreaker in a purchase this size clearly but still… 

I'm about to buy my 5th house.

as our vendor has no onward property, I'd be surprised if they didn't leave the curtains. I will certainly be very happy if they do.

We're leaving ours (having had them all dry cleaned) as they won't fit the new house.

Don't worry about the snobs who say you're wrong. I think it might say something about the houses they're buying.....

I'm always happy to find someone's old "rotten secondhand curtains", because as you say, it gives you a chance to decide what you want in the future.

As it happens, in this particular house, the vendor had sadly needed to go into a home. All the curtains were very thick made-to-measure hand-made affairs. We've replaced a couple of them, but the others are far better quality than we would normally have bought.

My seller in the first house I bought left me 4 garden chairs.... I still have them and use them 13 years later 🤣 one man's trash

I was super grestful for those chairs 

And would you take them with you if you moved on? I know I would!

lookstraightahead

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

alibean121 said:

lookstraightahead said:

silvercar said:

If I had to entertain the idea of gazundering pre-exchange for no reason other than the buyers trying it on, the retribution would cost them in the long run. 

They could forget any good will gestures like:

instructions for appliance
me leaving any blinds/curtains that I won't have use for
deep cleaning before I leave
etc 

Not sure that would make or break a deal. Who really wants someone else's secondhand curtains and doesn't everyone clean when they move in? Instructions might be useful but you can just get on the internet. Would rather have it all gone.
I think as a seller now you have to consider what's happening in the market. 

Oh gosh I’m buying my first house and would cry with joy if there were curtains left. Yeah you’d probably replace them eventually with ones you like but I’m not sure what I’m going to do initially - safety pin a bedsheet onto the curtain pole or something??

I mean it’s not a dealbreaker in a purchase this size clearly but still… 

I'm about to buy my 5th house.

as our vendor has no onward property, I'd be surprised if they didn't leave the curtains. I will certainly be very happy if they do.

We're leaving ours (having had them all dry cleaned) as they won't fit the new house.

Don't worry about the snobs who say you're wrong. I think it might say something about the houses they're buying.....

I'm always happy to find someone's old "rotten secondhand curtains", because as you say, it gives you a chance to decide what you want in the future.

As it happens, in this particular house, the vendor had sadly needed to go into a home. All the curtains were very thick made-to-measure hand-made affairs. We've replaced a couple of them, but the others are far better quality than we would normally have bought.

I buy almost everything secondhand. But someone being so disgruntled they won't leave the curtains isn't a deal breaker. 

It's great if you want something and you reach a mutual decision, but personally I don't want any left over surprises that I then have to deal with.

newsgroupmonkey_

lookstraightahead said:

newsgroupmonkey_ said:

alibean121 said:

lookstraightahead said:

silvercar said:

If I had to entertain the idea of gazundering pre-exchange for no reason other than the buyers trying it on, the retribution would cost them in the long run. 

They could forget any good will gestures like:

instructions for appliance
me leaving any blinds/curtains that I won't have use for
deep cleaning before I leave
etc 

Not sure that would make or break a deal. Who really wants someone else's secondhand curtains and doesn't everyone clean when they move in? Instructions might be useful but you can just get on the internet. Would rather have it all gone.
I think as a seller now you have to consider what's happening in the market. 

Oh gosh I’m buying my first house and would cry with joy if there were curtains left. Yeah you’d probably replace them eventually with ones you like but I’m not sure what I’m going to do initially - safety pin a bedsheet onto the curtain pole or something??

I mean it’s not a dealbreaker in a purchase this size clearly but still… 

I'm about to buy my 5th house.

as our vendor has no onward property, I'd be surprised if they didn't leave the curtains. I will certainly be very happy if they do.

We're leaving ours (having had them all dry cleaned) as they won't fit the new house.

Don't worry about the snobs who say you're wrong. I think it might say something about the houses they're buying.....

I'm always happy to find someone's old "rotten secondhand curtains", because as you say, it gives you a chance to decide what you want in the future.

As it happens, in this particular house, the vendor had sadly needed to go into a home. All the curtains were very thick made-to-measure hand-made affairs. We've replaced a couple of them, but the others are far better quality than we would normally have bought.

I buy almost everything secondhand. But someone being so disgruntled they won't leave the curtains isn't a deal breaker. 

It's great if you want something and you reach a mutual decision, but personally I don't want any left over surprises that I then have to deal with.

If the curtains are minging, it's not exactly difficult to ditch them. Probably worth removing the hooks first, mind.