Facebook Purchase Lego

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

aimeeabbie said:

Yes a private sale

It really depends upon what the advert said and what the seller said in any messages.

My understanding is that for a private sale the goods should match the description but the seller doesn't have any obligation to mention faults. 

There's no harm in sending the letter but before spending money on small claims you'd need to consider whether you actually have a claim.

If the seller mentioned the condition in a positive light then that may give you a base for the claim, as an example the average Lego fanatic wouldn't consider glued together bricks to be "very good condition" but of course it's very subjective and the person deciding the case may view any mention of condition differently. 

Can you post a copy of the ad and any messages from the seller? 

Ath_Wat

What does "bought on Facebook" mean, incidentally?  Did you pay on Facebook?  If you just made contact on Facebook then went round and examined and paid in person, then "on Facebook" really doesn't enter into it and just clouds the issue, but some people seem use "bought something  on Facebook" to describe precisely that.

Ath_Wat

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head said:

aimeeabbie said:

Yes a private sale

It really depends upon what the advert said and what the seller said in any messages.

My understanding is that for a private sale the goods should match the description but the seller doesn't have any obligation to mention faults. 

There's no harm in sending the letter but before spending money on small claims you'd need to consider whether you actually have a claim.

If the seller mentioned the condition in a positive light then that may give you a base for the claim, as an example the average Lego fanatic wouldn't consider glued together bricks to be "very good condition" but of course it's very subjective and the person deciding the case may view any mention of condition differently. 

Can you post a copy of the ad and any messages from the seller? 

Does a statement like "good condition" in an advert/message on Facebook matter if that is essentially just an invitation to "come round my house, open the boxes, have a look and buy it if you like it"?    For example if a chair is described as in good condition and you go round and it has three legs, surely you can't then say you'll buy it, pay for it and later go to court on the basis that it's not in good condition?

born_again

Ath_Wat said:

What does "bought on Facebook" mean, incidentally?  Did you pay on Facebook?  If you just made contact on Facebook then went round and examined and paid in person, then "on Facebook" really doesn't enter into it and just clouds the issue, but some people seem use "bought something  on Facebook" to describe precisely that.

Facebook Marketplace.

Just like GumTree...

Ath_Wat

born_again said:

Ath_Wat said:

What does "bought on Facebook" mean, incidentally?  Did you pay on Facebook?  If you just made contact on Facebook then went round and examined and paid in person, then "on Facebook" really doesn't enter into it and just clouds the issue, but some people seem use "bought something  on Facebook" to describe precisely that.

Facebook Marketplace.

Just like GumTree...

I have never actually used it, does it just provide contact details and nothing more?

Incidentally could it not also just be a message on a local group or suchlike saying "I want to sell some Lego" - does Facebook allow this or do you have to post sales on Marketplace?

soolin

Ath_Wat said:

born_again said:

Ath_Wat said:

What does "bought on Facebook" mean, incidentally?  Did you pay on Facebook?  If you just made contact on Facebook then went round and examined and paid in person, then "on Facebook" really doesn't enter into it and just clouds the issue, but some people seem use "bought something  on Facebook" to describe precisely that.

Facebook Marketplace.

Just like GumTree...

I have never actually used it, does it just provide contact details and nothing more?

Incidentally could it not also just be a message on a local group or suchlike saying "I want to sell some Lego" - does Facebook allow this or do you have to post sales on Marketplace?

You can do either, facebook marketplace is 'run' by Facebook, the selling groups all have their own admin and rules.

I think the term 'bought from facebook or on facebook' is well understood by most people. To complicate matters facebook marketplace is also trialing a more managed selling procedure with their own payment options, although this won't cover cash sales anyway. 

born_again

Think back to the for sale adds you used to see in papers. It's just a online marketplace where you can get rid of your (insert on word)

How your local group works on items for sale is up to them. Round here it is a bit NO... You use Marketplace. 

Basically buyer beware. 

RogerBareford

aimeeabbie said:

Thanks for the advice,, I will do that.  Big Lego collector also, I did the usual look in the boxes to check it wasn't all non Lego.  Never dreamed to check for glued and to be honest you couldn't tell.  I started washing smaller sections and still didn't notice until I tried to separate it.  Who glues Lego!! 

If you can't tell it had been glued together why does it matter? Are you planning on taking it apart and putting it back together as that seems a bit of a pointless exercise considering the kits are designed to fit together in only one configuration. Or are you talking about just general Lego pieces being glued together which are not part of a kit?

As mentioned before if you go to somewhere like LegoLand all their models will be glued together so i wouldn't say it was unusual.

soolin

RogerBareford said:

aimeeabbie said:

Thanks for the advice,, I will do that.  Big Lego collector also, I did the usual look in the boxes to check it wasn't all non Lego.  Never dreamed to check for glued and to be honest you couldn't tell.  I started washing smaller sections and still didn't notice until I tried to separate it.  Who glues Lego!! 

If you can't tell it had been glued together why does it matter? Are you planning on taking it apart and putting it back together as that seems a bit of a pointless exercise considering the kits are designed to fit together in only one configuration. Or are you talking about just general Lego pieces being glued together which are not part of a kit?

As mentioned before if you go to somewhere like LegoLand all their models will be glued together so i wouldn't say it was unusual.

I collect Lego and it makes a lot of difference to me, I wouldn't buy glued Lego, the point is building it or sometimes adapting buildings or scenes and creating your own . It's just the same as arguing that buying a pre done glued together jigsaw is the same as buying a jisaw in 1000 pieces.

The big commercial Lego displays are meant to more permanent and they are often glued purely to stop theft, mine are not being built or adapted for any public display so I don't want them glued.

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

Ath_Wat said:

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head said:

aimeeabbie said:

Yes a private sale

It really depends upon what the advert said and what the seller said in any messages.

My understanding is that for a private sale the goods should match the description but the seller doesn't have any obligation to mention faults. 

There's no harm in sending the letter but before spending money on small claims you'd need to consider whether you actually have a claim.

If the seller mentioned the condition in a positive light then that may give you a base for the claim, as an example the average Lego fanatic wouldn't consider glued together bricks to be "very good condition" but of course it's very subjective and the person deciding the case may view any mention of condition differently. 

Can you post a copy of the ad and any messages from the seller? 

Does a statement like "good condition" in an advert/message on Facebook matter if that is essentially just an invitation to "come round my house, open the boxes, have a look and buy it if you like it"?    For example if a chair is described as in good condition and you go round and it has three legs, surely you can't then say you'll buy it, pay for it and later go to court on the basis that it's not in good condition?

I think there was a concept of acceptance under the Sale of Goods Act so perhaps you wouldn't be able to complain a chair only has 3 legs as it should be obvious (might also come under mitigating losses as well) but, purely as an example, if the chair had a rotten leg and broke a hour after getting home that may not be obvious up inspection when buying and also not meet the description if the chair was described as "like new".

I don't think people should expect Lego to be glued together as the main aspect of the toy is you can take it apart and do as you wish with the pieces. Other posters mentioned places like Legoland doing this but there's an obvious reason for that where as the average person playing with Lego, or even adults collecting and/or displaying it, wouldn't glue it together so the wording of the advert might come into play if it said something about the condition.