Storage heaters payback time

nabznab1

Alright. I’ve been advised then a 2.7kw (TSRE 125) will suffice for the living room and I guess I’ll get a 1.8kw or 2.2kw for the landing. 

nabznab1

frugalmacdugal said:

Hi,

you say ' I have a electrical heater in the hallway',

then say, ' Yes the hallway did have one so could get the smaller 1.8kw one'.

So, what is situation now?

Apologies I know I haven’t been clear. As it stands, I have 2 wall electrical heaters (one in living room and one in hallway). There used to be 2 storage heaters there. 

I’m trying to replace and put in back 2 storage heaters again

markin

nabznab1 said:

markin said:

With an 11p difference between day/night, If they were to use 8kwh a night the payback would be 3-4 years if you get it for around £500, But as you binned your old ones you could just write it off as a £500 mistake. I would see if you can live with just doing the living room heater and only do the hall if you get cold.

If I get a 3.3kw (£475) for the living room (16m2), would that not suffice? I mean I have a electrical heater in the hallway which I could replace for a smaller storage heater (1.8kw at £350) or leave that one as it is and only use it when I get cold. 

I’m on a the following fixed 1 yr tariff: 
Day : 43.25Kw

Night : 26.13kw

Standing : 43.48

Based on that above, will the payback time be quicker? Is it worth investing in another storage heater if I’m only planning to live in the property for no more than 4-5 years? 

If that fix covers at least this coming winter it would knock off a year of the payback as the day/night difference is far greater.

I would certainly hope spending £1k on a lick of paint and decorating would add value when selling.

Check the EPC for heat demand and get one that fits the storage capacity. I would think that the windows and insulation has been upgraded since the original install, Flat Age?
https://www.gov.uk/get-new-energy-certificate

nabznab1

Well this is the current EPC details (it’s a C with a potential of a high C) - this is when I did have those old storage heaters I removed…

nabznab1

This is the current EPC with the old storage heaters I removed. Flat built in the 80’s. 

[Deleted User]

Hi,

so, no storage heater just now.

Why do you want one on the landing?

You could put the 3.3 in living room, where you want to be cosy, smaller one in hallway, heat rises so no need for a landing one.

The wall mounted panel heaters, with plugs fitted,  could be used in bedrooms, and switched on half an hour before going to bed or if they have timer function then set for half hour before bed/getting up.

nabznab1

Sorry I should clarify - it’s a 2 bed first floor maisonette. Upon the entrance to the property are stairs immediately leading to the first floor landing where the bedrooms, living room etc are. There used to be a storage heater in the landing and one in the living room. 

So are you suggesting 3.3 in the living room and 1.8kw in the landing? To complicate things, I should point out there is still an older storage heater right inside the entrance of the property next to the stairs! 

[Deleted User]

Hi,

ok, getting the picture.

So, is storage heater right inside the entrance of the property next to the stairs still functionable?

If so, then forget about the landing one and use it, heat rises, you can add landing one later if needed.

nabznab1

frugalmacdugal said:

Hi,

ok, getting the picture.

So, is storage heater right inside the entrance of the property next to the stairs still functionable?

If so, then forget about the landing one and use it, heat rises, you can add landing one later if needed.

Yes I believe it is functional. So based on that suggestion, I’ll forget the landing as go for a 3.3kw for the living room. But the one in the landing now is an electrical wall heater that is connected via an E7 meter. Methinks I prob will have to get that heater disconnected as it’ll be pointless running off peak at night as it’s not storing any heat? 

pochase

Maybe you should also consider that many people will be running away when you try to sell a flat with panel heaters instead of storage heaters.

This part of the break even is not easy to put a number on, but still significant.