Storage heaters payback time

nabznab1

EssexHebridean said:

nabznab1 said:

EssexHebridean said:

What type of heaters are you looking at? Do make sure that they are the new high heat retention type rather than the old Box Of Bricks sort. 

I think the 3.4kw combo is a Newlec model NLCH24N and the other is a creda single. 

Not sure if this helps. Can’t find any information on whether they have the old style bricks or modern heat retention system. 

They all have bricks - it's a fundamental part of the way they work, BUT in newer ones the bricks are often better insulated, meaning they "leak" less heat at inconvenient ties, like the middle of the night or throughout the day when you're out, leaving more "usable" stored heat for when it's required. Quantum is an example of a HHR model - and as the poster above has said about the ones they installed they come with a lot more controllability. Having had both types, I categorically would NOT fit any now that were not HHR models - it's a whole world of difference and they are far more cost effective to run.  

It's time for some research - ultimately if you are going to use storage heaters you need to REALLY understand how they work, and how much interaction they need. the more you know about them, the better armed you are to keep your home warm and your costs lower. 

Your advice has been invaluable. Thank you. I am going to opt for HHR now. 

QrizB

nabznab1 said:

QrizB said:

Yes, it looks OK. Which supplier is it with?

www.greenenergyuk are quoting me 43.25p day / 26.13p night for 12 months (the rates for your region may be slightly different). If you use more night electricity than day, this could be a better choice with slightly faster break-even - about 6500kWh at those prices.

I’ve just had a look into this. I might go on this fix. How have you found them?

I've still got a fix with Octopus so I haven't had to switch recently.

There have been a few forum users switch to GEUK in the past couple of weeks. From what I recall they've found their support agents to be quick, polite and helpful.

markin

With an 11p difference between day/night, If they were to use 8kwh a night the payback would be 3-4 years if you get it for around £500, But as you binned your old ones you could just write it off as a £500 mistake. I would see if you can live with just doing the living room heater and only do the hall if you get cold.

nabznab1

markin said:

With an 11p difference between day/night, If they were to use 8kwh a night the payback would be 3-4 years if you get it for around £500, But as you binned your old ones you could just write it off as a £500 mistake. I would see if you can live with just doing the living room heater and only do the hall if you get cold.

If I get a 3.3kw (£475) for the living room (16m2), would that not suffice? I mean I have a electrical heater in the hallway which I could replace for a smaller storage heater (1.8kw at £350) or leave that one as it is and only use it when I get cold. 

I’m on a the following fixed 1 yr tariff: 
Day : 43.25Kw

Night : 26.13kw

Standing : 43.48

Based on that above, will the payback time be quicker? Is it worth investing in another storage heater if I’m only planning to live in the property for no more than 4-5 years? 

nabznab1

Not sure which model or models (if I should get two) is best??

QrizB

nabznab1 said:

markin said:

With an 11p difference between day/night, If they were to use 8kwh a night the payback would be 3-4 years if you get it for around £500, But as you binned your old ones you could just write it off as a £500 mistake. I would see if you can live with just doing the living room heater and only do the hall if you get cold.

If I get a 3.3kw (£475) for the living room (16m2), would that not suffice?

It probably will. 3.3kW is a relatively large heater.

I mean I have a electrical heater in the hallway which I could replace for a smaller storage heater (1.8kw at £350) or leave that one as it is and only use it when I get cold.

If there was a storage heater there before, I'd be inclined to fit one again.

nabznab1

QrizB said:

nabznab1 said:

markin said:

With an 11p difference between day/night, If they were to use 8kwh a night the payback would be 3-4 years if you get it for around £500, But as you binned your old ones you could just write it off as a £500 mistake. I would see if you can live with just doing the living room heater and only do the hall if you get cold.

If I get a 3.3kw (£475) for the living room (16m2), would that not suffice?

It probably will. 3.3kW is a relatively large heater.

I mean I have a electrical heater in the hallway which I could replace for a smaller storage heater (1.8kw at £350) or leave that one as it is and only use it when I get cold.

If there was a storage heater there before, I'd be inclined to fit one again.

Ok. Yes the hallway did have one so could get the smaller 1.8kw one. But is it generally always worth getting a larger heater simply because it will retain more heat and thus be more economical? I’m really just trying to be sensible based on me staying at the property for 4-5 years which is why I keep asking about payback time. 

Alnat1

You're probably going to spend £1000+ decorating and generally doing up the property over the next few years but you aren't expecting payback for that. Why would you expect changing the heating system to pay you back in £?

As mentioned above, write off removing the storage heaters as a mistake and spend what you need to make your home warm and comfortable. The payback is being cosy and happy over winter. 

QrizB

nabznab1 said:

QrizB said:

nabznab1 said:

markin said:

With an 11p difference between day/night, If they were to use 8kwh a night the payback would be 3-4 years if you get it for around £500, But as you binned your old ones you could just write it off as a £500 mistake. I would see if you can live with just doing the living room heater and only do the hall if you get cold.

If I get a 3.3kw (£475) for the living room (16m2), would that not suffice?

It probably will. 3.3kW is a relatively large heater.

I mean I have a electrical heater in the hallway which I could replace for a smaller storage heater (1.8kw at £350) or leave that one as it is and only use it when I get cold.

If there was a storage heater there before, I'd be inclined to fit one again.

Ok. Yes the hallway did have one so could get the smaller 1.8kw one. But is it generally always worth getting a larger heater simply because it will retain more heat and thus be more economical? I’m really just trying to be sensible based on me staying at the property for 4-5 years which is why I keep asking about payback time. 

The heater should really be matched to the heating requirements of the room. Bigger heaters cost more to buy and take up more space, but are unlikely to save you any more money than the correctly-sized heater would..

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Hi,

you say ' I have a electrical heater in the hallway',

then say, ' Yes the hallway did have one so could get the smaller 1.8kw one'.

So, what is situation now?