alleged noise nuisance letter

Bendy_House

fender62 said:

she did after the new years receive a second letter from housing neighborhood manager, roughly stating: noise issue coming from your address you will be investigated should the nuisance persist, i expect she will receive the second letter. if she rings them

what can she say, she feels bad about it and is worried with anxiety.

The nuisance will not persist. It was a one-of. Twice...

This is not a statutory nuisance. If she had noisy parties on a weekly basis, then fair do's.

I would not reply "It won't happen again", because I think that's unreasonable. I mean, please tell me she also had a party last Thursday? If ever there was a just cause to...

Of course, even with one-off events, one should be considerate, and cut the noise after a certain point - but I have no idea what is considered an acceptable cut-off point.

Your daughter should not have to worry - nothing should come of these two complaints, as they were of isolated incidences, and the council are simply doing what they are obliged to do - pass on the complaint and hope it goes away. For them to actually 'act' on such an issue would take the gathering of evidence - a detailed log of all the incidences, recordings, and perhaps even the installation of a sound monitor. Of course, this would pick up nothing, unless by sheer chance it happened to be on the day your daughter did have a party. And even then it would not be 'persistent'.

It's your daughter's call whether to speak to the immediate neighbour, but not - of course - on the assumption it was them - because it might not have been - but just straight-forward factual; "We've had a complaint from the council about the noise from the wee party we had last Xth. We obviously don't know who complained, but we hope that you weren't disturbed by the noise?" She can then judge a lot by the response.

If it was them, and they are bolshie/aggressive about it, it would be fair to say - again, the absolute truth - "We are considerate neighbours, and in no-way anti-social. We are all entitled to have the very occasional small party, tho' - this was two small events in a whole year - but we'll do our best to keep any noise down. We can also let you know in advance if that helps?" Ie, don't rise to their manner, and don't reply in kind - nothing riles folk more than having to deal with calm reason. The more reasonable you are, the more silly they look.

Oh, and if your daughter has any concern that the neighb might be 'unreasonable', then she should have her phone set to record, and/or have a witness. If this neighb is nutty, then she needs to build evidence.

markin

What houses have kids? And i bet the sound can even travel 2 doors down.

user1977

fender62 said:

will they understand it was a celebration for the queen

I'd love to know more detail about what form this patriotic celebration took.

elsien

user1977 said:

fender62 said:

will they understand it was a celebration for the queen

I'd love to know more detail about what form this patriotic celebration took.

Marching band? Fly past? 

canaldumidi

Assumingit was,as you say, just two occassions coinciding with 2 events (New years and Jubilee) I would write back to the council briefly stating just that. It will do no harm to have a response/explanation on record.

But if there's more to it than that, then best to moderate behavior/volume.

RoyalDad

What kind of Jubilee celebration was she having with just her husband? How long did it go on for?

movilogo

Read at local council's website what the council would do.
You can reply back saying you find it unreasonable to expect no noise.
Typically if neighbor complains much, council will install noise measuring device on their home to understand whether there is real noise pollution or they are just making a fuss.

markin

Do the council not have noise team, Why were they not sent out for the Jubilee?

fender62

i have no idea how the council work, but i thank everyone for their opinions.