Inner porch door, outer door glass?

theoretica

Brie said:

Is getting something akin to a barn door a possibility?  That way at least you wouldn't have the issue of getting stuck inside due to a parcel outside.  

random google shows a company selling what they call Dutch Doors.

Dutch Doors | Half & Split Doors from Simpson (simpsondoor.com)

Another option would be what my neighbours with a very shallow porch have, and that is a door in two halves vertically - so two very slim doors which open inwards.  Like this - but narrower.

https://www.cotswood-doors.co.uk/product/regency-style-georgian-double-doors/

theoretica

Another thought is that hinges exist which will open in or out - so maybe you could get a door which usually opened out, but you could open inwards in case of parcels...

markin

Would the original have had a door at all? Build a bigger insulated porch and drop the inner door altogether?

And as the door opens out, The path should have been doubled with a big step for people to step back off.


Thinking about it again, if your replacing the outer door make it smaller so you can just line the walls with 100mm insulation board, If its not a brick cavity wall already, Then you can get rid of the internal door that way as well.

On my road road we have houses with the 2 narrow double doors, And the outward opening doors, non of them options really work that well.

Slinky

theoretica said:

Another thought is that hinges exist which will open in or out - so maybe you could get a door which usually opened out, but you could open inwards in case of parcels...

Doesn't look there's enough space to squeeze round the door if it opened inwards.

BUFF

theoretica said:

Another thought is that hinges exist which will open in or out - so maybe you could get a door which usually opened out, but you could open inwards in case of parcels...

it's also to do with how the seals work for draughtproofing - if it's outward opening &  blowing outside onto the door it's actually compressing the leaf onto the frame & seals. If you want it to open the other way it' needs a new frame & door leaf.

FreeBear

TELLIT01 said: Maybe the people you have to deal with at your door just aren't bright enough to read signs.  Opening an outward facing door slowly should be enough warning for all but the thickest person standing outside.  All I've ever done is open it slowly and say 'The door opens outward'.

You ever had a TVL 'erbert banging on the door as if he was law enforcement (or trying to break in) ?

The sound of a door making contact with an unprotected skull is quite satisfying under the circumstances, and a bit of blood is a bonus.

Bendy_House

Worth fitting the warning sign right away, and monitor it's success?

If it works, then your options for the front door are increased.

TELLIT01

markin said:

Would the original have had a door at all? Build a bigger insulated porch and drop the inner door altogether?

And as the door opens out, The path should have been doubled with a big step for people to step back off.


Thinking about it again, if your replacing the outer door make it smaller so you can just line the walls with 100mm insulation board, If its not a brick cavity wall already, Then you can get rid of the internal door that way as well.

On my road road we have houses with the 2 narrow double doors, And the outward opening doors, non of them options really work that well.

Are you a builder?  You seem very keen to create as big a job as possible.   The OP doesn't mention any step on the outside, big or small.  As for doing away with the inner door, that's something I would never do.  Not only does the enclosed porch keep the cold and draughts out, it's an extra layer of defence if anybody does try to break in.

greensalad

TELLIT01 said:

markin said:

Would the original have had a door at all? Build a bigger insulated porch and drop the inner door altogether?

And as the door opens out, The path should have been doubled with a big step for people to step back off.


Thinking about it again, if your replacing the outer door make it smaller so you can just line the walls with 100mm insulation board, If its not a brick cavity wall already, Then you can get rid of the internal door that way as well.

On my road road we have houses with the 2 narrow double doors, And the outward opening doors, non of them options really work that well.

Are you a builder?  You seem very keen to create as big a job as possible.   The OP doesn't mention any step on the outside, big or small.  As for doing away with the inner door, that's something I would never do.  Not only does the enclosed porch keep the cold and draughts out, it's an extra layer of defence if anybody does try to break in.

There's no step, though there should be because it's quite a significant step up. We are planning to get one done when we redo our driveway and redo the whole stepping-stone path. But that's a way off yet.

I don't want to do away with the inner door, we like having a porch. It's just trying to convince people to use it as one, hence me trying to make the front door more "porch-like". 

I might stick a sign up and see how we go. 

Bendy_House

There was an identical thread on here perhaps a year ago. No idea what the resolution was (if any) but perhaps worth a search?