EV Discussion thread

michaels

thevilla said:

There are fixed magnet motors as used in the Leaf and induction motors as used in the Ariya for example.   According to Tesla Bjorn the Ariya is much more efficient if you ignore the fact the Ariya is yet another drivable brick (SUV).  When will the SUV madness come round an end? We need pointy cars.

That's my motor knowledge exhausted BTW. 

I guess that will be when people get home and decide they would prefer to lower themselves to sit with their bum a couple of inches off the floor at about the same height as their ankles whilst not being able to see the telly properly because it is still mounted halfway up the wall and being constantly in danger of having their head bashed by people walking around who fail to see them right down there, rather than use their favourite easy chair/settee....

thevilla

michaels said:

thevilla said:

There are fixed magnet motors as used in the Leaf and induction motors as used in the Ariya for example.   According to Tesla Bjorn the Ariya is much more efficient if you ignore the fact the Ariya is yet another drivable brick (SUV).  When will the SUV madness come round an end? We need pointy cars.

That's my motor knowledge exhausted BTW. 

I guess that will be when people get home and decide they would prefer to lower themselves to sit with their bum a couple of inches off the floor at about the same height as their ankles whilst not being able to see the telly properly because it is still mounted halfway up the wall and being constantly in danger of having their head bashed by people walking around who fail to see them right down there, rather than use their favourite easy chair/settee....

Tesla seem to be successful with a point on the front of the vehicle.  As do F16s and Airbus A380s.  

Martyn1981

thevilla said:

michaels said:

thevilla said:

There are fixed magnet motors as used in the Leaf and induction motors as used in the Ariya for example.   According to Tesla Bjorn the Ariya is much more efficient if you ignore the fact the Ariya is yet another drivable brick (SUV).  When will the SUV madness come round an end? We need pointy cars.

That's my motor knowledge exhausted BTW. 

I guess that will be when people get home and decide they would prefer to lower themselves to sit with their bum a couple of inches off the floor at about the same height as their ankles whilst not being able to see the telly properly because it is still mounted halfway up the wall and being constantly in danger of having their head bashed by people walking around who fail to see them right down there, rather than use their favourite easy chair/settee....

Tesla seem to be successful with a point on the front of the vehicle.  As do F16s and Airbus A380s.  

Actually I was also thinking that the 3 & Y are quite pointy. Our 2018 IONIQ is very slippery too.

Have to say I find the SUV 'thing' a bit weird. We had a Zafira, big and bulky, but extremely versatile, and half the price of a 'SUV'. Also baffled at the TMY being called a SUV, it's just a fat 3. Maybe cars sell better if they are described as being a SUV?



Total change of subject, just got back from an exotic trip to the Covid booster site (I go to all the best places), and spent a pleasant few minutes in the carpark having a good look at a MG4, the first I've spotted in the wild. Kudos to Silverwhistle, it's a lot more car than I expected. Sleek nose, but a big old cabin, with loads of capacity. Very nice, and now I'm thinking even better VFM than before.

michaels

Martyn1981 said:

thevilla said:

michaels said:

thevilla said:

There are fixed magnet motors as used in the Leaf and induction motors as used in the Ariya for example.   According to Tesla Bjorn the Ariya is much more efficient if you ignore the fact the Ariya is yet another drivable brick (SUV).  When will the SUV madness come round an end? We need pointy cars.

That's my motor knowledge exhausted BTW. 

I guess that will be when people get home and decide they would prefer to lower themselves to sit with their bum a couple of inches off the floor at about the same height as their ankles whilst not being able to see the telly properly because it is still mounted halfway up the wall and being constantly in danger of having their head bashed by people walking around who fail to see them right down there, rather than use their favourite easy chair/settee....

Tesla seem to be successful with a point on the front of the vehicle.  As do F16s and Airbus A380s.  

Actually I was also thinking that the 3 & Y are quite pointy. Our 2018 IONIQ is very slippery too.

Have to say I find the SUV 'thing' a bit weird. We had a Zafira, big and bulky, but extremely versatile, and half the price of a 'SUV'. Also baffled at the TMY being called a SUV, it's just a fat 3. Maybe cars sell better if they are described as being a SUV?



Total change of subject, just got back from an exotic trip to the Covid booster site (I go to all the best places), and spent a pleasant few minutes in the carpark having a good look at a MG4, the first I've spotted in the wild. Kudos to Silverwhistle, it's a lot more car than I expected. Sleek nose, but a big old cabin, with loads of capacity. Very nice, and now I'm thinking even better VFM than before.

Whereas I thought it looked a bit smaller than I expected next to our leaf, and lower in particular.

I suspect the reason the Y outsells the 3 3:1 despite the 3 being 'the better car' and considerably cheaper is that people don't like sitting on the floor after all....

silvercar

I'm thinking of changing my 8 yr old Nissan Juke for an EV. The other family car is a model 3 LR Tesla, so I only need something with a range of 120 miles, I do have a preference for mini-SUV. Initial thoughts are a Leaf. I don't want anything too small, so a Mini or Smart is out and I don't want anything too big. If anyone has any other suggestions I'm listening.

michaels

silvercar said:

I'm thinking of changing my 8 yr old Nissan Juke for an EV. The other family car is a model 3 LR Tesla, so I only need something with a range of 120 miles, I do have a preference for mini-SUV. Initial thoughts are a Leaf. I don't want anything too small, so a Mini or Smart is out and I don't want anything too big. If anyone has any other suggestions I'm listening.

MG ZS original battery?  Koma/eNero small battery although I suspect they are like rocking horse poo.  Kia Soul (although the 30/33kwh battery would probably struggle with more than 100 miles in winter).  Was there a 35kwh eGolf?

Grumpy_chap

silvercar said:

I'm thinking of changing my 8 yr old Nissan Juke for an EV. The other family car is a model 3 LR Tesla, so I only need something with a range of 120 miles, I do have a preference for mini-SUV. Initial thoughts are a Leaf. I don't want anything too small, so a Mini or Smart is out and I don't want anything too big. If anyone has any other suggestions I'm listening.

My Brother has an i3.  Quirky styling and not a mini-SUV but very practical and would fit the bill of not too small, not too big, range not a priority and competes with the Leaf (which is also not a mini-SUV).

michaels

Grumpy_chap said:

silvercar said:

I'm thinking of changing my 8 yr old Nissan Juke for an EV. The other family car is a model 3 LR Tesla, so I only need something with a range of 120 miles, I do have a preference for mini-SUV. Initial thoughts are a Leaf. I don't want anything too small, so a Mini or Smart is out and I don't want anything too big. If anyone has any other suggestions I'm listening.

My Brother has an i3.  Quirky styling and not a mini-SUV but very practical and would fit the bill of not too small, not too big, range not a priority and competes with the Leaf (which is also not a mini-SUV).

If you can get away with seating max 4 then I would look at a volt/ampera although I guess they are now getting long in the tooth.

70sbudgie

There is a new, big blue (not relevant, I know, but makes it stand out) MG on my road. Every time I drive past it, I think I should wander round and have a look at whether it is a 4. I haven't seen it from the back yet.

I don't understand why SUVs are so popular. We are waiting for an all electric estate. With children, we like lots of horizontal space in the boot, SUV may have volume, but there's a limit to how high you can stack suitcases (or children's stuff).

Grumpy_chap

70sbudgie said:

We are waiting for an all electric estate. 

MG5.
Though it is a smaller estate (like a Focus), not a real load-lugger (like a Superb)