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Ending Contract - 6 Month Contract

Can the landlord end the AST contract if the rent hasn't surpassed and/or is greater than two months worth of rent? 

A landlord is saying they want to end the tenancy due to rent arrears. Rent arrears are no where near the two month window and/or greater. So can he still/choose to end it?
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  • Slithery
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    Possibly.
    The LL can serve an S8 for rent arrears but it's up to the judge to decide on whether or not to evict.
  • Robbo66
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    edited 20 June 2022 at 3:45PM
    Landlord can serve you a section 21 provided it doesnt expire within a fixed term period. if you are on a 6 month contract then he could serve 2 months notice in month 4 or 2 months notice in month 10 to coincide with the end of the fixed term. If however your agreement has gone periodic then he can serve 2 months notice at any time.

    he can also use a section 8 with grounds 10, 11 & 12 but theses are discretionary and/or Ground 8 which is a mandatory ground for possession. To use ground 8 you must be at least 2 rental payments (2 x rental periods does not equate to 2 months) in arrears at time of servings and on day of hearing.
  • dranzer01
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    edited 20 June 2022 at 4:00PM
    I moved in february , tenancy ends August - So the email came today for the tenancy to end end of August (due to rent arrears - which Im/have been contesting)
  • In which case then sadly, unless there's something actually wrong with the S21, it's valid.

    Doesn't of course mean you have to move out..... but I'd start looking.
  • saajan_12
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    dranzer01 said:
    Can the landlord end the AST contract if the rent hasn't surpassed and/or is greater than two months worth of rent? 

    A landlord is saying they want to end the tenancy due to rent arrears. Rent arrears are no where near the two month window and/or greater. So can he still/choose to end it?
    dranzer01 said:
    I moved in february , tenancy ends August - So the email came today for the tenancy to end end of August (due to rent arrears - which Im/have been contesting)
    They can get the court to end the tenancy by
    a. Section 8 ground 10/11 notice for any rent arrears -> served anytime, but its up to the judge's discretion whether the arrears are severe enough to grant possession.
    b. Section 21 notice without reason -> served after first 4 months and expiring at / after the end of the fixed term. That's a mandatory term, so the judge has to grant possession if everything's done correctly. If they informally gave a reason stating rent arrears, its irrelevant as no reason is even necessary. 


  • canaldumidi
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    edited 20 June 2022 at 6:59PM
    Just to add to the above good advice, here are the various Grounds that can be used for rent arrears (G8 (mandatory), G10 & G11 (at judge's discretion):
    Schedule 2 (17 S8 Grounds a LL can use)
    For the avoidance of doubt, the landlord cannot end the tenancy. He can only serve a S21 and/or S8 and then ask a court to end the tenancy.
    See also
    Post 4: Ending/renewing an AST: what happens when a fixed term ends? How can a LL or tenant end a tenancy? What is a periodic tenancy?


  • dranzer01
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    I started my tenancy 25th february 2022 and the agency sent me an email on 19th june 2022 informing me of notice / section 21.... So that in itself is invalid as its not past 4 month window
  • canaldumidi
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    dranzer01 said:
    I started my tenancy 25th february 2022 and the agency sent me an email on 19th june 2022 informing me of notice / section 21.... So that in itself is invalid as its not past 4 month window

    Yes.
    Assuming it was a S21 Notice, and assuming the tenancy agreement says notices can be served on you by email (not very common), then it's still invalid as served within the first 4 months.
  • dranzer01
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    edited 21 June 2022 at 8:06PM
    She basically 'pre-warned' me via email she was going to serve notice of a section 21 (and then she wrote 'to follow by post' and took a screenshot of the envelope)
  • canaldumidi
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    edited 21 June 2022 at 8:28PM
    dranzer01 said:
    She basically 'pre-warned' me via email she was going to serve notice of a section 21 (and then she wrote 'to follow by post' and took a screenshot of the envelope)
    drip drip drip...
    So you've not had a S21.If/when it comes by post, if it is served on/after 25th June then (from the date point of view) it will be valid.
    Can the landlord end the AST contract if the rent hasn't surpassed and/or is greater than two months worth of rent?
    A S21 does not need any reason so the rent arrears are irrelevant.
    A landlord is saying they want to end the tenancy due to rent arrears.
    If that is the case, a S8 Notice would be more relevant. Though a sensible landlord would serve both.
    Rent arrears are no where near the two month window
    The 2 months arrears applies only to S8 ground 8. If arrears are less the LL can use S8 grounds 10 and/or 11. See
    Schedule 2 (17 S8 Grounds a LL can use)






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