My usage is huge between 2am-9am

EssexHebridean

Yes OP - it looks to me like Scottish Power (you might remember I mentioned they had form for this without realising that was who you were with, too!) have indeed managed to flip your rates. 

Looks like your immersion heater setting has an option for a straight switch when the meter changes over - that is how ours works - the way it's set it literally only gets a feed when the E7 "cheap" rate is active. If we need a bit extra then we still have the option of the boost that bypasses that and allows a feed from the day rate - these days though that rarely gets used, oddly enough! 

Mstty

I would boost for a bath and it's been talked about a lot dishes are cheaper to boil a kettle for.

I know it seem archaic but the savings add up.

EssexHebridean

Definitely not cheaper in my experience to use boost for a bath these days Mstty! Used to be, but not any more sadly. 

Ours runs overnight. we can easily get general use during the day - a sink of water each for MrEH's shave/face washes for both of us in the morning, a full bowl for washing up, and still just about squeeze a bath out with the water remaining at a good temperature in the evening. That's from a not huge tank, well insulated though, and it will literally be running through cold by the time the bath fill is completed. 

Alnat1

Research found washing "clean" hands (like after going to the loo) works just as well with soap and cold water as with warm/hot for killing germs. Warm water and soap is better if you've been gardening etc. If it's only the dishes, could you boil a kettle? Could then pop the water heater on for 15-20 mins only when you fancy a bath.

Mstty

EssexHebridean said:

Definitely not cheaper in my experience to use boost for a bath these days Mstty! Used to be, but not any more sadly. 

Ours runs overnight. we can easily get general use during the day - a sink of water each for MrEH's shave/face washes for both of us in the morning, a full bowl for washing up, and still just about squeeze a bath out with the water remaining at a good temperature in the evening. That's from a not huge tank, well insulated though, and it will literally be running through cold by the time the bath fill is completed. 

They said occasional, so rather than hot water on 7 days a week if it's one bath maybe that works?

I wouldn't have responded if they said baths every day👍

And they literally just want to wash dishes every day so there is a point to be taken in by the OP depending on the regularity of their baths?

Mstty

Alnat1 said:

Research found washing "clean" hands (like after going to the loo) works just as well with soap and cold water as with warm/hot for killing germs. Warm water and soap is better if you've been gardening etc. If it's only the dishes, could you boil a kettle? Could then pop the water heater on for 15-20 mins only when you fancy a bath.

Shhh you will anger the boost button misers lol

Completely agree Alnat👍

EssexHebridean

Mstty said:

EssexHebridean said:

Definitely not cheaper in my experience to use boost for a bath these days Mstty! Used to be, but not any more sadly. 

Ours runs overnight. we can easily get general use during the day - a sink of water each for MrEH's shave/face washes for both of us in the morning, a full bowl for washing up, and still just about squeeze a bath out with the water remaining at a good temperature in the evening. That's from a not huge tank, well insulated though, and it will literally be running through cold by the time the bath fill is completed. 

They said occasional, so rather than hot water on 7 days a week if it's one bath maybe that works?

I wouldn't have responded if they said baths every day👍

And they literally just want to wash dishes every day so there is a point to be taken in by the OP depending on the regularity of their baths?

Yep - definitely it's something to think about. We maybe go the bath route once a week - and for us it's definitely worked out cheaper to leave the heater to tick over on its timed setting on the "cheap" (I flinch every time I type that now - it's far from cheap these days!) rate - absolutely agree that may not be the case for everyone but we can only post based on personal experience can't we! I didn't want the OP to assume that it would "definitely" be cheaper for them! 

Alnat1 said:

Research found washing "clean" hands (like after going to the loo) works just as well with soap and cold water as with warm/hot for killing germs. Warm water and soap is better if you've been gardening etc. If it's only the dishes, could you boil a kettle? Could then pop the water heater on for 15-20 mins only when you fancy a bath.

That's my understanding on the handwashing thing too - it's the soap that's the key part as the temperature of the water won't kill any germs anyway - it's not hot enough! 

Unfortunately it takes longer than 145 - 20 minutes to heat an immersion tank from cold in my experience - that would give a very lukewarm bath sadly!  It really is a now quite juggle between living a comfortable life and trying to balance the costs (and environmental impact) sadly. 

We used to as standard switch our immersion off if we were going to be away overnight - these days it's actually more cost effective to leave it on for a single night, no more expensive to leave it on if away for two nights, and only past that point is it actually financially worth turning it off altogether. That's using electricity overnight at 17p a unit and assuming that when we return it just reheats on that same overnight unit cost.

Ultrasonic

raemcc said:

I'm with Scottish Power. I don't see any usage online at all. I just assumed there was a delay. 

For info. I've been with Scottish Power from mid-March and had a smart meter from a previous supplier already. Today is the first time when I've logged in that I've been able to see usage data. I'm not certain when I last checked but I'm sure that for at least the first two months there was no usage showing.

Edit: for clarity, I can see data right back to when I joined SP. The smart meter data has been being read throughout without issues, it was purely being able to see it on the website that was not.

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raemcc said:

Also the bright app shows this. Has Scottish power flipped us backwards. 

SP needs to reverse all bills up to the date that the tariff was set. They should then be able to re-issue a bill using correct tariff rates.

FWiW, I am in similar but not identical situation with Octopus. The R2 register is now being used for peak and the R1 register is being used for offpeak. The important thing to store away for the future is that if you switch suppliers you must give the new supplier both the R1 and R2 readings from the actual smart meter. If you provide the single meter reading from the IHD, you will end up in a big mess and a readings dispute.

jadey2024

Mstty said:

I would boost for a bath and it's been talked about a lot dishes are cheaper to boil a kettle for.

I know it seem archaic but the savings add up.

I barely have my immersion on in almost 14 yrs I've lived in this property and I used to use the kettle for wash-up water once daily but now I heat a big casserole dish of cold water in the oven when cooking dinner at same time to utilise the oven being on. Two birds with one stone. Lol.
And the water comes out the oven much much hotter than the kettle water. 

Does anybody know if you put the immersion heater on through night, does that hot water get used if you put electric shower on or does it only come through the taps? Out of interest.
I'm thinking it only comes through taps but wanted to ask in case.