EV comparison

dd95

Martyn1981 said:

Same thoughts here. Nice car, but a step up, so will cost you more. You can find a lot of cars for £10k-£15k less but with similar range, though some will be smaller.

[Looking at prices today, so possibly the cheaper BEV's that got the PiG will rise in price with the Gov announcement that they are ending the £1,500 subsidy scheme.]

is there anything you recommend Martyn? i dont want a zoe or a leaf!

Part of me is thinking looking at something in the 20-30k range and buy it monthly. the payments would be similar to a lease and at least i'd have 10-15k worth of car at the end if i wanted to sell

born_again

dd95 said:

I’m looking into getting a EV but can’t see how it is better off for me financially. What are your thoughts?

taking the Kia ev6 for example, it’s 45k or around £500 a month with a £4K deposit as I need 20k miles.

Currently drive an old i20 (£189) finance payment and around £240 per month in petrol.

I would be able to charge the EV in work so no need for home charging etc 

thanjs!

If your thinking of a EV6 then be prepared for a 12 month delivery timescale. 
Might be better looking at the new Kia Niro as delivery is a lot shorter.

ComicGeek

12 months ago the Skoda Enyaq 60 would have been a great option, the base option eligible for govt subsidy and not much above £30k.

Now has been pulled from the UK market as the govt subsidy dropped and the overall cost difference between the 60 and 80 models subsequently reduced.

A 2/3 year old Enyaq (either 60 or 80) is going to be a good buy in a couple of years time, but needs the new car supply issues to be fixed before they start dropping in price. 

Martyn1981

dd95 said:

Martyn1981 said:

Same thoughts here. Nice car, but a step up, so will cost you more. You can find a lot of cars for £10k-£15k less but with similar range, though some will be smaller.

[Looking at prices today, so possibly the cheaper BEV's that got the PiG will rise in price with the Gov announcement that they are ending the £1,500 subsidy scheme.]

is there anything you recommend Martyn? i dont want a zoe or a leaf!

Part of me is thinking looking at something in the 20-30k range and buy it monthly. the payments would be similar to a lease and at least i'd have 10-15k worth of car at the end if i wanted to sell

Hiya. I'm assuming from your EV6 choice that you don't want the smallest choices. Though the Leaf may teeter on the balance.

Have a good nose through the EV-Database, as you'll find all the cars, most of which I'd forgotten or hadn't heard of, there are so many now. I simply started at the main page and scrolled down looking at range and price, then opening a tab for any that jumped out. The newest on the list are the Megane, MG ZS and Niro, all of which have reasonable prices and ranges, just as examples.

What sort of range are you thinking? And Grumpy's reply right at the start raised a really important point:

You also need to consider not just total 20k miles per year but how those miles will be driven - type of road, journey pattern etc.

If you are mostly driving, say, 150 mile round trips at most, with home charging, then smaller range doesn't matter as much, as if you are driving lots of, say, 300 mile trips. The more you pay, the more range and versatility you will get, but why pay for something you don't really need.


I agree with others that the sister cars Kona / Niro may be a good choice, and they were actually ones I quickly checked before suggesting £10k-£15k could be saved, if you are happy to look at slightly smaller cars.

But get out there and have some test drives (if you haven't already). You will be shocked at how easy and pleasant BEV's are to drive. I'd also suggest as you start to zero in on a make and model, to join some chat groups and ask for help. People will be honest and typically love to help and share.

A few years back we were moving from a 2014 24kWh Leaf to a 2018 28kWh IONIQ. The Leaf could do about 60-70 miles, the IONIQ was rated at 130 miles. Wifey and I couldn't believe the difference, so we asked for comments, thoughts etc, and they all came back saying 130 miles was easy, and 150 if you drove carefully. We drive it in Sport mode for a bit more instant power, but are still averaging 4.7m/kWh long term, which is a smidge over 130.

iwb100

ComicGeek said:

12 months ago the Skoda Enyaq 60 would have been a great option, the base option eligible for govt subsidy and not much above £30k.

Now has been pulled from the UK market as the govt subsidy dropped and the overall cost difference between the 60 and 80 models subsequently reduced.

A 2/3 year old Enyaq (either 60 or 80) is going to be a good buy in a couple of years time, but needs the new car supply issues to be fixed before they start dropping in price. 

The 60 was pulled because the wait for any enyaq went way over 12 months so they pulled the most popular version from new orders….

Flight3287462

iwb100 said:

ComicGeek said:

12 months ago the Skoda Enyaq 60 would have been a great option, the base option eligible for govt subsidy and not much above £30k.

Now has been pulled from the UK market as the govt subsidy dropped and the overall cost difference between the 60 and 80 models subsequently reduced.

A 2/3 year old Enyaq (either 60 or 80) is going to be a good buy in a couple of years time, but needs the new car supply issues to be fixed before they start dropping in price. 

The 60 was pulled because the wait for any enyaq went way over 12 months so they pulled the most popular version from new orders….

Or alternatively they shelved the one with the least profit margin, keeping the low supply of chips for the more premium models.

iwb100

Flight3287462 said:

iwb100 said:

ComicGeek said:

12 months ago the Skoda Enyaq 60 would have been a great option, the base option eligible for govt subsidy and not much above £30k.

Now has been pulled from the UK market as the govt subsidy dropped and the overall cost difference between the 60 and 80 models subsequently reduced.

A 2/3 year old Enyaq (either 60 or 80) is going to be a good buy in a couple of years time, but needs the new car supply issues to be fixed before they start dropping in price. 

The 60 was pulled because the wait for any enyaq went way over 12 months so they pulled the most popular version from new orders….

Or alternatively they shelved the one with the least profit margin, keeping the low supply of chips for the more premium models.

Yeah. That as well.

Grumpy_chap

That link to EV Database shared a few post up is really helpful - shame MSE can't put it in a book-marked guide somewhere.
There are some "normal" cars showing in the list which is welcome - not everyone needs or wants a giant vehicle.  Presumably, smaller cars will also be more efficient and have longer range.

ComicGeek

iwb100 said:

ComicGeek said:

12 months ago the Skoda Enyaq 60 would have been a great option, the base option eligible for govt subsidy and not much above £30k.

Now has been pulled from the UK market as the govt subsidy dropped and the overall cost difference between the 60 and 80 models subsequently reduced.

A 2/3 year old Enyaq (either 60 or 80) is going to be a good buy in a couple of years time, but needs the new car supply issues to be fixed before they start dropping in price. 

The 60 was pulled because the wait for any enyaq went way over 12 months so they pulled the most popular version from new orders….

Given that the 60 is still available to buy in Europe with much larger order numbers than the UK, that doesn't really make much sense though.

Apparently VW were also not expecting the Enyaq to be quite so popular in the UK, to the point that they're now actively trying to divert buyers to the poorer received ID.4 and ID.5.

Jenni_D

born_again said:

dd95 said:

I’m looking into getting a EV but can’t see how it is better off for me financially. What are your thoughts?

taking the Kia ev6 for example, it’s 45k or around £500 a month with a £4K deposit as I need 20k miles.

Currently drive an old i20 (£189) finance payment and around £240 per month in petrol.

I would be able to charge the EV in work so no need for home charging etc 

thanjs!

If your thinking of a EV6 then be prepared for a 12 month delivery timescale. 
Might be better looking at the new Kia Niro as delivery is a lot shorter.

I've taken a look (online) at the new Niro EV ... looks like a good compromise option vs the EV6. (The Niro EV 4 price is tending towards the base model EV6 Air, but the Niro EV 3 looks like a reasonable option to consider).