Emissions Mercedes group action claim, question.

Car_54

diystarter7 said:

Thank you all.
I looked at the firms offering to follow up the emissions thing and MSE has details re what some may charge. I'll put it to dad. He is giving the money to a charity, ie plant trees.

Good luck to all those that claim and hopefully Mercedes drivers get a lot more than that. He bought the car new for just under 40 k so 15% of that is 6k.

And 0% of it is £0.

k3lvc

diystarter7 said:

Good luck to all those that claim and hopefully Mercedes drivers get a lot more than that. He bought the car new for just under 40 k so 15% of that is 6k.

Where on earth are you plucking your 15% from - please don't go suggesting to your Dad you can win him £6k to plant some new trees

And to be fair if you're going to play the 'I want to save the planet' card then buying a 2 tonne, 200bhp+ Mercedes really isn't the way to be doing it

diystarter7

k3lvc said:

diystarter7 said:

Good luck to all those that claim and hopefully Mercedes drivers get a lot more than that. He bought the car new for just under 40 k so 15% of that is 6k.

Where on earth are you plucking your 15% from - please don't go suggesting to your Dad you can win him £6k to plant some new trees

And to be fair if you're going to play the 'I want to save the planet' card then buying a 2 tonne, 200bhp+ Mercedes really isn't the way to be doing it

He was advised it was a very green car/with low emissions and it was a good 6 years ago long before the battery cars became affordable and quicker battery charging and better mileage. He'd change to an EV but can afford a new car that is similar size and EV. He could just give it me, enjoy it away but he cares about the environment and was misled and feels awful driving the car now that it has had its recall a couple of years ago I think resulting in pooer mpg, poorer idling, acceleration and worse of all, more pollution.

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k3lvc

diystarter7 said:

He was advised it was a very green car/with low emissions and it was a good 6 years ago long before the battery cars became affordable and quicker battery charging and better mileage. He'd change to an EV but can afford a new car that is similar size and EV. He could just give it me, enjoy it away but he cares about the environment and was misled and feels awful driving the car now that it has had its recall a couple of years ago I think resulting in pooer mpg, poorer idling, acceleration and worse of all, more pollution.

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If he was driving 30k motorway miles a year with multiple passengers then it could be considered 'green-ish' over it's life cycle vs it's competition.

Given you've previously stated it's done 14k miles in its life it's burned money in depreciation and fuel in a real sense - even if you could prove it's dropped 20% in economy that number might be in the £hundreds vs a £tens of thousands loss in depreciation etc

diystarter7

k3lvc said:

diystarter7 said:

He was advised it was a very green car/with low emissions and it was a good 6 years ago long before the battery cars became affordable and quicker battery charging and better mileage. He'd change to an EV but can afford a new car that is similar size and EV. He could just give it me, enjoy it away but he cares about the environment and was misled and feels awful driving the car now that it has had its recall a couple of years ago I think resulting in pooer mpg, poorer idling, acceleration and worse of all, more pollution.

.

If he was driving 30k motorway miles a year with multiple passengers then it could be considered 'green-ish' over it's life cycle vs it's competition.

Given you've previously stated it's done 14k miles in its life it's burned money in depreciation and fuel in a real sense - even if you could prove it's dropped 20% in economy that number might be in the £hundreds vs a £tens of thousands loss in depreciation etc

All of that is true. But my dad only buy a brand new car and keeps it for years and he has his reasons for this. I won't go into it but he's seen car seats being reupholstered and how dirty some people are so he wants a new car.

IMHO dad is doing a good deed unlike many C list famous people that harp on about going green, saving the planet yet fly alomst everywhere and driven around in massive cars.

ComicGeek

diystarter7 said:

k3lvc said:

diystarter7 said:

He was advised it was a very green car/with low emissions and it was a good 6 years ago long before the battery cars became affordable and quicker battery charging and better mileage. He'd change to an EV but can afford a new car that is similar size and EV. He could just give it me, enjoy it away but he cares about the environment and was misled and feels awful driving the car now that it has had its recall a couple of years ago I think resulting in pooer mpg, poorer idling, acceleration and worse of all, more pollution.

.

If he was driving 30k motorway miles a year with multiple passengers then it could be considered 'green-ish' over it's life cycle vs it's competition.

Given you've previously stated it's done 14k miles in its life it's burned money in depreciation and fuel in a real sense - even if you could prove it's dropped 20% in economy that number might be in the £hundreds vs a £tens of thousands loss in depreciation etc

IMHO dad is doing a good deed unlike many C list famous people that harp on about going green, saving the planet yet fly alomst everywhere and driven around in massive cars.

Then also help him by reading up on tree planting - there are lots of poorly thought out tree planting schemes that do more harm to the environment than good, and also lots of scams. 

It's shameful that the vast majority of things that are promoted/advertised as being 'green' are far from it. 

diystarter7

ComicGeek said:

diystarter7 said:

k3lvc said:

diystarter7 said:

He was advised it was a very green car/with low emissions and it was a good 6 years ago long before the battery cars became affordable and quicker battery charging and better mileage. He'd change to an EV but can afford a new car that is similar size and EV. He could just give it me, enjoy it away but he cares about the environment and was misled and feels awful driving the car now that it has had its recall a couple of years ago I think resulting in pooer mpg, poorer idling, acceleration and worse of all, more pollution.

.

If he was driving 30k motorway miles a year with multiple passengers then it could be considered 'green-ish' over it's life cycle vs it's competition.

Given you've previously stated it's done 14k miles in its life it's burned money in depreciation and fuel in a real sense - even if you could prove it's dropped 20% in economy that number might be in the £hundreds vs a £tens of thousands loss in depreciation etc

IMHO dad is doing a good deed unlike many C list famous people that harp on about going green, saving the planet yet fly alomst everywhere and driven around in massive cars.

Then also help him by reading up on tree planting - there are lots of poorly thought out tree planting schemes that do more harm to the environment than good, and also lots of scams. 

It's shameful that the vast majority of things that are promoted/advertised as being 'green' are far from it. 

On that note, he and or I will investigate before he parts with the thousands for a good cause.
Your comments remind me of giving to charity where up to 95% plus goes on expenses . Therefore many thanks we will look into it at the appropriate time.

shiraz99

diystarter7 said:

k3lvc said:

diystarter7 said:

Good luck to all those that claim and hopefully Mercedes drivers get a lot more than that. He bought the car new for just under 40 k so 15% of that is 6k.

Where on earth are you plucking your 15% from - please don't go suggesting to your Dad you can win him £6k to plant some new trees

And to be fair if you're going to play the 'I want to save the planet' card then buying a 2 tonne, 200bhp+ Mercedes really isn't the way to be doing it

He was advised it was a very green car/with low emissions and it was a good 6 years ago long before the battery cars became affordable and quicker battery charging and better mileage. He'd change to an EV but can afford a new car that is similar size and EV. He could just give it me, enjoy it away but he cares about the environment and was misled and feels awful driving the car now that it has had its recall a couple of years ago I think resulting in pooer mpg, poorer idling, acceleration and worse of all, more pollution.

.

It is a "green" car in relative terms, the thing that harms the plant is CO2. This whole dieselgate storm is/was about the amount of NOx being emitted which was never a factor in the buying process of any diesel car, as it was never mentioned or advertised by any manufacturer in the UK, or EU when your Dad bought his car. Don't kid yourself on that this is all about your dad's green credentials, it's not.

diystarter7

shiraz99 said:

diystarter7 said:

k3lvc said:

diystarter7 said:

Good luck to all those that claim and hopefully Mercedes drivers get a lot more than that. He bought the car new for just under 40 k so 15% of that is 6k.

Where on earth are you plucking your 15% from - please don't go suggesting to your Dad you can win him £6k to plant some new trees

And to be fair if you're going to play the 'I want to save the planet' card then buying a 2 tonne, 200bhp+ Mercedes really isn't the way to be doing it

He was advised it was a very green car/with low emissions and it was a good 6 years ago long before the battery cars became affordable and quicker battery charging and better mileage. He'd change to an EV but can afford a new car that is similar size and EV. He could just give it me, enjoy it away but he cares about the environment and was misled and feels awful driving the car now that it has had its recall a couple of years ago I think resulting in pooer mpg, poorer idling, acceleration and worse of all, more pollution.

.

It is a "green" car in relative terms, the thing that harms the plant is CO2. This whole dieselgate storm is/was about the amount of NOx being emitted which was never a factor in the buying process of any diesel car, as it was never mentioned or advertised by any manufacturer in the UK, or EU when your Dad bought his car. Don't kid yourself on that this is all about your dad's green credentials, it's not.

He was sold a green car and if the emissions stood at what they stand at now after the recall, he would have never bought the car.

shiraz99

diystarter7 said:

shiraz99 said:

diystarter7 said:

k3lvc said:

diystarter7 said:

Good luck to all those that claim and hopefully Mercedes drivers get a lot more than that. He bought the car new for just under 40 k so 15% of that is 6k.

Where on earth are you plucking your 15% from - please don't go suggesting to your Dad you can win him £6k to plant some new trees

And to be fair if you're going to play the 'I want to save the planet' card then buying a 2 tonne, 200bhp+ Mercedes really isn't the way to be doing it

He was advised it was a very green car/with low emissions and it was a good 6 years ago long before the battery cars became affordable and quicker battery charging and better mileage. He'd change to an EV but can afford a new car that is similar size and EV. He could just give it me, enjoy it away but he cares about the environment and was misled and feels awful driving the car now that it has had its recall a couple of years ago I think resulting in pooer mpg, poorer idling, acceleration and worse of all, more pollution.

.

It is a "green" car in relative terms, the thing that harms the plant is CO2. This whole dieselgate storm is/was about the amount of NOx being emitted which was never a factor in the buying process of any diesel car, as it was never mentioned or advertised by any manufacturer in the UK, or EU when your Dad bought his car. Don't kid yourself on that this is all about your dad's green credentials, it's not.

He was sold a green car and if the emissions stood at what they stand at now after the recall, he would have never bought the car.

What "emissions" are these exactly? He was sold a car with a specified and advertised CO2 rating, which was the only measure used to determine how "green" your car was. This hasn't changed, as I stated the diesel gate palaver had nothing to do with CO2 emissions. If he thinks his car has been damaged by a recall then by all means he should take the dealer to task for that but don't jump on the gravy train, which has already left the station, just because you think your green sensibilities have been damaged.