Energy Rebate

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si_74 said:

Tony2476 said:

I rent a property in the sticks with my own electric, water and oil metres and readings are submitted to the landlord every 3 months.  Will I recieve a £400 helping hand. 

As i understand it the payment will go to the account holder, and will be credited automatically to the bill over 6 equal installments from October. If your landlord is the account holder then it will come off his bill, which he will (hopefully) in turn pass on to you.

Unless your landlord is a "business" customer in which case he won't get any rebate

Ultrasonic

Tony2476 said:

I rent a property in the sticks with my own electric, water and oil metres and readings are submitted to the landlord every 3 months.  Will I recieve a £400 helping hand. 

Do you know if the property is on a domestic or business electricity tariff? Do you get sent copies of the bills by your landlord?

pochase

Tony2476 said:

I rent a property in the sticks with my own electric, water and oil metres and readings are submitted to the landlord every 3 months.  Will I recieve a £400 helping hand. 

Do you mean with own meter that you have a sub meter and the electric account is in the name of the landlord?

In this case the landlord will receive the money as the account is in his name. Is he also living there and is using electricity on the same account? 

Your situation has been flagged as a problem already a while ago, same as park home residents, but there has not been any solution yet.

borderlord

Hi Tony

Are you the only one renting from this landlord? If there are others, it's highly unlikely your landlord has a domestic account for them.

That means that he will not get the rebate unless he has a separate domestic account for his own personal supply.

True this has been highlighted before, but all the government will say is they're looking into it.

Yeah, right.

The only way to keep this front and centre of government thinking is to get the petition up to 10,000 signatures. Then they are legally bound to respond.

Please encourage everyone you know to sign up.

Thanks

Jeff

Ultrasonic

pochase said:

Tony2476 said:

I rent a property in the sticks with my own electric, water and oil metres and readings are submitted to the landlord every 3 months.  Will I recieve a £400 helping hand. 

Do you mean with own meter that you have a sub meter and the electric account is in the name of the landlord?

For the OP's benefit I'll say that I don't actually understand that question as written. Were you trying to distinguish between there being a single meter for the property that the tenant is solely responsible for vs a sub-meter in a property that the tenant is sharing with the landlord, or perhaps others?

pochase

I was trying to find out if he is sharing with the landlord and potentially others the same account.

As he is saying he has a meter, but at the same time he is paying the landlord a sub meter was the logical conclusion for me.

Ultrasonic

pochase said:

I was trying to find out if he is sharing with the landlord and potentially others the same account.

As he is saying he has a meter, but at the same time he is paying the landlord a sub meter was the logical conclusion for me.

It's certainly a possibility. As I said, I was just clarifying as to me your original wording was unclear.

ariarnia

borderlord said:

To my mind there is a simple solution, at least for park home owners, not sure how it would work for inclusive rented properties.

It was touched upon briefly by Helen in a previous post, and it's this:

Rather than pass it on to the electricity companies, give it instead to the lpg suppliers. After all they're energy suppliers too.

They could then hold it in credit against future bills for each individual customer.

 I know this would work, because it already does in at least one case. My neighbour had been overcharged on her bills for some time.

I talked to the lpg supplier on her behalf, they agreed there had been a slip up, and have issued a credit on her account to cover the overcharge. This will be used to offset future bills, and the companies computer will take care of the details.

Suggesting the same could happen here, although on a wider scale.

Seems to me we need to keep up the pressure on government to put a scheme into action, but rather than just saying they have to do something, if we could present them with a solution, ready made (oven ready?), so to speak, they would be more inclined to take that on board, since it saves them having to think of something themselves.

Just a thought

Jeff

(thinking)how would they be able to check if someone had both a lpg account for heating an an electric account in their name? or they'd end up paying out the £400 twice.

i'm thinking there might be a lot of rural properties that have lpg boiler and mains electric (as i think it's been pushed for a few years as a low carbon option when your oil system is coming to the end of life) and i know more than one person in an all electric flat who has a lpg fire in their lounge to keep the bills lower (so has an account with an lpg supplier and would get the £400 twice as well). 

borderlord

Hi Ariarnia

Valid point, but I don't think it's beyond the powers that be to devise a system to sort this out. All that is needed is the will from the government to find such a system.

That's the whole point of the petition, to keep our needs front and centre. Unfortunately we do not have the power to hold the country to ransom, as others can (no names) so all we can do is to raise enough of a voice that we can't be ignored.

Bear in mind the other side of the coin.

As the system stands, anyone rich enough to own a second, and possibly third, home would get this rebate for all of them.

If that was left in place, and thousands of pensioners did not even get one rebate, I would be the first to raise a stink. Hopefully not the only one either.

We'll see

Jeff

SAC2334

borderlord said:

calcotti said:

The scheme guidance information says “Energy suppliers will deliver this support to households with a domestic electricity meter over six months from October“. If you don’t have your own domestic meter it appears you will not get the rebate.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/cost-of-living-support/cost-of-living-support-factsheet-26-may-2022

True enough, except I do have a domestic meter. The fact that this is  read and levies charged by the park owner should not alter the basic intent of the policy.

Jeff

Yes , I used to read meters on quite a few Park Home sites, some quite large with over 100 park homes, some with only 20 and a few Traveller sites with just a dozen or so supplied direct by normal suppliers.
 BG supplied the largest site I visited which had all the occupiers with proper domestic gas and electric  meters which had nothing to do with the site owners . 
People who live in Narrow boats on the canals near me are different being supplied by a business energy contract with the mooring site owner.
 I can see these being problematic as some of them are summer escapes for normal residents whilst others live there permanently