Energy company profits

MouldyOldDough

Ultrasonic said:

MouldyOldDough said:

So the government is trying to make us forget about partygate by offering us all (?) up to £850 in payments to compensate for price rises

Its blatant

£650 to lowest income

£150 to disabled

£300 to pensioners

£400 to everyone

How do they expect us to react ?

Boris should just apologise rather than put the UK even further in to debt

And what about disabled, low income, over 65's - will they get the whole lot ?

Do you come here solely to complain? You started a thread demanding that the government MUST impose a windfall tax and give more money to consumers. Just a few hours later the government announces it is doing precisely this and your response is as above, rather than being happy about it.

Pure coincidence honest 

MouldyOldDough

What does "lowest income" mean for the cost of Living payments ?
Are savings taken into account? 

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MouldyOldDough said:

What does "lowest income" mean for the cost of Living payments ?
Are savings taken into account? 

The £650 will be low-income households who receive Universal Credit, tax credits, pension credit and other means-tested benefits.

BikingBud

MattMattMattUK said:

Benny2020 said:

"when you survey the general public asking them if they would like "free money" the vast majority say yes, even if those people are too stupid to realise that they are being bribed. "

Democracy is important and relies on the consent of the loser to work so criticizing those who don't vote how you want them to is the really stupid thing, we saw it over Brexit and we saw it after Donald Trump was elected.
The public (voters) NEVER get it wrong.

Democracy also relies on the electorate being educated and rational enough to make decisions which do not negatively impact society to a large extent. Criticizing those who have taken actions which have negatively impacted oneself, or even oneself and the others is perfectly legitimate, everyone's views are fair game, no one should be beyond criticism. 

The public/voters/electorate regularly get things wrong, greater than 50% of people believing something to be true or beneficial, does not make make that belief correct. All it means is that if you can convince more than half of those who vote (within the constraints of the electoral system, FPTP is does not require 50% or more) to vote a certain way then you get to impose your will on everyone. 

@matt@MattMattMattUK Why do you deduce that it requires educated people?

It requires freedom of choice whether that choice is based on an ability to reason and deduce what is best for all rather than what is best for "me" is not part of that discussion.

The masses may wish a different outcome and in your mind that might be considered "wrong" but meeting the wishes of the masses is the fundamental precept of democracy. Dissenters, ie the minority, must accept that the majority see thing differently.