Noisy neighbours and their barking dogs

SuseOrm

Coming over here,  stealing our pet owners 🤣🤣

GDB2222

Woolsery said:

GixerKate said:

Woolsery said:

GixerKate said:

Woolsery said:

LHZ said:

Woolsery said:

LHZ said:

I have every sympathy with the OP but I wanted to suggest that, rather than the owners being neglectful or cruel they may actually be involved in rescue and rehoming. Fighting the good fight if you will.

 Yes, a neighbour near us has rescued 4 Romanian street dogs now. She thinks they'e more deserving than British dogs.

Did your neighbour actually say that or are you just being a bit silly?

I'm not 'being silly.' It's obvious to me that someone who goes out of their way to obtain stray dogs from a foreign country must either think they are somehow more deserving than unwanted British  pets, or they're intent on some sort of weird virtue signalling.

I'm being generous and assuming the former rather than the latter.

This has made me laugh!! As an owner of a Romanian street dog I can say you are completely off the mark with your judgements.

Lots of things asserted by the BBC and other major news channels have made me laugh too in the last couple of years, but that's because I know more than the basics and see their bias.

If you're to convince me it's desirable to import foreign stray dogs into the UK you'll have to do better than telling me I'm "off the mark." I'm not particularly knowledgeable about the unwanted pet situation, so I'm willing to learn why  it's not  bound to need more resources and cost some British dogs the chance of a home.

 

We just wanted to give a home to a dog who needed one but unfortunately the self-imposed red tape of the UK-based charities made it impossible to go through them so we found another way.  I've spoken to many other dog owners who have faced similar situations, sadly it seems the UK-based charities are not doing themselves any favours and its the dogs who suffer.

That's amazing, and sad. Thanks for the info. I've not had any dealings with British rescues for over 20 years, but I knew one when we lived in the city. Although it had procedures to follow, it was well-run and several friends also had dogs or cats from there.

There are dogs that will never be re-homed and I wonder if they are clogging-up the system in the UK nowadays.

Is it possible that, during the pandemic, the demand for pets was so high that the animal sanctuaries could be extremely picky about where they rehomed? If so, there is no need to adjust your sets, and normal service will be restored shortly. 

SuseOrm

GDB2222 said:

Woolsery said:

GixerKate said:

Woolsery said:

GixerKate said:

Woolsery said:

LHZ said:

Woolsery said:

LHZ said:

I have every sympathy with the OP but I wanted to suggest that, rather than the owners being neglectful or cruel they may actually be involved in rescue and rehoming. Fighting the good fight if you will.

 Yes, a neighbour near us has rescued 4 Romanian street dogs now. She thinks they'e more deserving than British dogs.

Did your neighbour actually say that or are you just being a bit silly?

I'm not 'being silly.' It's obvious to me that someone who goes out of their way to obtain stray dogs from a foreign country must either think they are somehow more deserving than unwanted British  pets, or they're intent on some sort of weird virtue signalling.

I'm being generous and assuming the former rather than the latter.

This has made me laugh!! As an owner of a Romanian street dog I can say you are completely off the mark with your judgements.

Lots of things asserted by the BBC and other major news channels have made me laugh too in the last couple of years, but that's because I know more than the basics and see their bias.

If you're to convince me it's desirable to import foreign stray dogs into the UK you'll have to do better than telling me I'm "off the mark." I'm not particularly knowledgeable about the unwanted pet situation, so I'm willing to learn why  it's not  bound to need more resources and cost some British dogs the chance of a home.

 

We just wanted to give a home to a dog who needed one but unfortunately the self-imposed red tape of the UK-based charities made it impossible to go through them so we found another way.  I've spoken to many other dog owners who have faced similar situations, sadly it seems the UK-based charities are not doing themselves any favours and its the dogs who suffer.

That's amazing, and sad. Thanks for the info. I've not had any dealings with British rescues for over 20 years, but I knew one when we lived in the city. Although it had procedures to follow, it was well-run and several friends also had dogs or cats from there.

There are dogs that will never be re-homed and I wonder if they are clogging-up the system in the UK nowadays.

Is it possible that, during the pandemic, the demand for pets was so high that the animal sanctuaries could be extremely picky about where they rehomed? If so, there is no need to adjust your sets, and normal service will be restored shortly. 

No they’ve been like this since 2004.  I turned up to dogs trust with my two and my four-year-old in tow we owned a house the size of Berks,
I was going to be a stay at home mum for the first time in my life so thought now would be a great time to have a dog because we be able to offer all the time and attention in the world while it settled in the children would grow up with it it was going to be perfect well no not according to the dogs trust.   They wouldn’t even let us have a Jack Russell.  

Help1234

To speed things up you could take private action against your neighbours directly with the courts, bypassing the local authority under Section 82 of the Environmental Protection Act 1990. 

https://www.basingstoke.gov.uk/content/doclib/554.pdf

Sapindus

There are sonic dog deterrents.  Could you press one of those every time the dogs bark.  The neighbours would not be able to hear the device so if you are careful not to let them see they would not know.  Don't know how legal/cruel that would be?

newsgroupmonkey_

SuseOrm said:

No they’ve been like this since 2004.  I turned up to dogs trust with my two and my four-year-old in tow we owned a house the size of Berks,
I was going to be a stay at home mum for the first time in my life so thought now would be a great time to have a dog because we be able to offer all the time and attention in the world while it settled in the children would grow up with it it was going to be perfect well no not according to the dogs trust.   They wouldn’t even let us have a Jack Russell.  

And they're right IMHO.

Most rescue dogs have been through a traumatic time in their life. Rescue centres know that because of this, their dogs have the potential to be volatile, angry or with detachment issues etc.

For me, putting a rescue dog with a 2 and a 4 year old is inappropriate, irrespective of the size. Jack Russells can be right nasty bitey wotsits.

A puppy, on the other hand, is slightly different. Trained and brought up in a loving household, they can usually deal better with small children.

sheramber

The difficulty rescues have is they often do not know the dog's background. It is an unknown quantity so will not risk placing with children.

A large busy rescue does not have time to properly assess whether a dog is child friendly, cat friendly, suitable to live on a flat. 

They do not want to place a dog and have the situation prove unsuitable. They do not dogs being returned , possibly further damaged by an unsuitable home.

Exclusions usually come from previous experiences.

It only takes one bad incident to give the rescue a bad reputation.

So they play safe and restrict who they will adopt to. . 


Some rescues are able to assess dogs in a foster home so  are more able to adopt them to a suitable home.  

But the stress is is on a home being suitable for an individual dog.

martindow

sheramber said:

A large busy rescue does not have time to properly assess whether a dog is child friendly, ...

Crikey, how would you do that?  I don't think I would want any of my grandchildren to be offered up to see if they get bitten!

GixerKate

sheramber said:

The difficulty rescues have is they often do not know the dog's background. It is an unknown quantity so will not risk placing with children.

A large busy rescue does not have time to properly assess whether a dog is child friendly, cat friendly, suitable to live on a flat. 

They do not want to place a dog and have the situation prove unsuitable. They do not dogs being returned , possibly further damaged by an unsuitable home.

Exclusions usually come from previous experiences.

It only takes one bad incident to give the rescue a bad reputation.

So they play safe and restrict who they will adopt to. . 


Some rescues are able to assess dogs in a foster home so  are more able to adopt them to a suitable home.  

But the stress is is on a home being suitable for an individual dog.

Completely agree but my personal experience was a disinterest to put the dog's best interest front and centre, at no point did any of the UK-based charities even bother doing a home-check or to talk to us properly.  We were very clear and honest, we wanted a young pup who would be able to join our family and we had an elder dog who is excellent with nervous reactive dogs but they weren't interested, it was a tick-box exercise.

The Romanian rescue on the other hand came and did a full home assessment and we were matched to a puppy who needed a home.