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  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    edited 17 May 2022 at 7:32PM
    Manxman_in_exile

    If people are so stupid as to pay a fee that gives them no financial advantage over buying from an alternative retailer, then I'm afraid neither I nor you can help them.  But your assertion that paying a £5 annual fee can't give a purchaser any financial advantage is plain wrong and false.

    Rather than "members" being bizarrely and daftly defensive of GO, it sounds more like you have some irrational grudge against them
    Customers are forced to pay the fee to avoid paying the unrealistic alternate full price. No grudge from me, I've looked at cheaper items in there such as maps which paying the fee to buy makes them expensive. If paying it was needed to benefit me I'd pay but it never has been. Do you really think the fee enables them to reduce their prices? Without it they could offer the same prices but miss out on the relatively small income from it and the repeat purchases from customers keen to take advantage of the fabricated members club.

  • MarvinDay
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    Customers are forced to pay the fee to avoid paying the unrealistic alternate full price. 
    Here's a novel idea for you to consider.

    Instead of people being "forced" to pay the membership fee or paying an unrealistic price, why don't potential customers simply shop elsewhere?

    Despite what you keep posting, low price, high price or anywhere in between, no-one is being forced to buy the goods or to pay for membership.


  • Ath_Wat
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    Manxman_in_exile

    If people are so stupid as to pay a fee that gives them no financial advantage over buying from an alternative retailer, then I'm afraid neither I nor you can help them.  But your assertion that paying a £5 annual fee can't give a purchaser any financial advantage is plain wrong and false.

    Rather than "members" being bizarrely and daftly defensive of GO, it sounds more like you have some irrational grudge against them
    Customers are forced to pay the fee to avoid paying the unrealistic alternate full price. No grudge from me, I've looked at cheaper items in there such as maps which paying the fee to buy makes them expensive. If paying it was needed to benefit me I'd pay but it never has been. Do you really think the fee enables them to reduce their prices? Without it they could offer the same prices but miss out on the relatively small income from it and the repeat purchases from customers keen to take advantage of the fabricated members club.

    So you'd pay it if it would benefit you, but it doesn't; but anyone who has looked into it and found it does benefit them is an idiot for paying it?

    That's your position, right?
  • Norman_Castle
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    edited 18 May 2022 at 3:40PM
    Ath_Wat said:
    Manxman_in_exile

    If people are so stupid as to pay a fee that gives them no financial advantage over buying from an alternative retailer, then I'm afraid neither I nor you can help them.  But your assertion that paying a £5 annual fee can't give a purchaser any financial advantage is plain wrong and false.

    Rather than "members" being bizarrely and daftly defensive of GO, it sounds more like you have some irrational grudge against them
    Customers are forced to pay the fee to avoid paying the unrealistic alternate full price. No grudge from me, I've looked at cheaper items in there such as maps which paying the fee to buy makes them expensive. If paying it was needed to benefit me I'd pay but it never has been. Do you really think the fee enables them to reduce their prices? Without it they could offer the same prices but miss out on the relatively small income from it and the repeat purchases from customers keen to take advantage of the fabricated members club.

    So you'd pay it if it would benefit you, but it doesn't; but anyone who has looked into it and found it does benefit them is an idiot for paying it?

    That's your position, right?

    Wrong, I haven't implied anyone's an idiot, thats a straw man argument.
  • Norman_Castle
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    edited 18 May 2022 at 3:36PM
    MarvinDay said:
    Customers are forced to pay the fee to avoid paying the unrealistic alternate full price. 
    Here's a novel idea for you to consider.

    Instead of people being "forced" to pay the membership fee or paying an unrealistic price, why don't potential customers simply shop elsewhere?

    Despite what you keep posting, low price, high price or anywhere in between, no-one is being forced to buy the goods or to pay for membership.



    Plenty of customers do shop elsewhere. Obviousy everyone is welcome to chose to shop elsewhere but to shop there and pay the marked ticket price rather than the RRP or inflated price you have to pay for membership.
    As I said, its bizarre how defensive customers are of this. Do you think all shops should do this?



  • jon81uk
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    Ath_Wat said:
    Manxman_in_exile

    If people are so stupid as to pay a fee that gives them no financial advantage over buying from an alternative retailer, then I'm afraid neither I nor you can help them.  But your assertion that paying a £5 annual fee can't give a purchaser any financial advantage is plain wrong and false.

    Rather than "members" being bizarrely and daftly defensive of GO, it sounds more like you have some irrational grudge against them
    Customers are forced to pay the fee to avoid paying the unrealistic alternate full price. No grudge from me, I've looked at cheaper items in there such as maps which paying the fee to buy makes them expensive. If paying it was needed to benefit me I'd pay but it never has been. Do you really think the fee enables them to reduce their prices? Without it they could offer the same prices but miss out on the relatively small income from it and the repeat purchases from customers keen to take advantage of the fabricated members club.

    So you'd pay it if it would benefit you, but it doesn't; but anyone who has looked into it and found it does benefit them is an idiot for paying it?

    That's your position, right?

    Wrong, I haven't called anyone an idiot. Is that why people of being defensive of it? People are welcome to pay it but it shouldn't be necessary. Customers are forced to pay it if they want to pay the shop price rather than the RRP or another imaginary inflated price.
    Or if people don't want to pay they can shop elsewhere, it isn't necessary to go to Go Outdoors at all.

  • jon81uk
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    MarvinDay said:
    Customers are forced to pay the fee to avoid paying the unrealistic alternate full price. 
    Here's a novel idea for you to consider.

    Instead of people being "forced" to pay the membership fee or paying an unrealistic price, why don't potential customers simply shop elsewhere?

    Despite what you keep posting, low price, high price or anywhere in between, no-one is being forced to buy the goods or to pay for membership.



    Plenty of customers do shop elsewhere. Obviousy everyone is welcome to chose to shop elsewhere but to shop there and pay the marked ticket price rather than the RRP or inflated price you have to pay for membership.
    As I said, its bizarre how defensive customers are of this. Do you think all shops should do this?
    I find it bizzare how offended you are by Go Outdoors business model.

    Some other shops do have similar ways of restricting sales, Costco of course is members only andTesco only give special offers now to Clubcard holders. 20 years ago Matalan required membership too (but was only £1).
  • Zinger549
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    jon81uk said:
    MarvinDay said:
    Customers are forced to pay the fee to avoid paying the unrealistic alternate full price. 
    Here's a novel idea for you to consider.

    Instead of people being "forced" to pay the membership fee or paying an unrealistic price, why don't potential customers simply shop elsewhere?

    Despite what you keep posting, low price, high price or anywhere in between, no-one is being forced to buy the goods or to pay for membership.



    Plenty of customers do shop elsewhere. Obviousy everyone is welcome to chose to shop elsewhere but to shop there and pay the marked ticket price rather than the RRP or inflated price you have to pay for membership.
    As I said, its bizarre how defensive customers are of this. Do you think all shops should do this?
    I find it bizzare how offended you are by Go Outdoors business model.

    Some other shops do have similar ways of restricting sales, Costco of course is members only andTesco only give special offers now to Clubcard holders. 20 years ago Matalan required membership too (but was only £1).
    Richer Sounds have special offers for VIP members. It's free to sign up though. The Go Outdoors card is only £5 and it lasts a year.

    Come on you Irons
  • Norman_Castle
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    jon81uk said:
    MarvinDay said:
    Customers are forced to pay the fee to avoid paying the unrealistic alternate full price. 
    Here's a novel idea for you to consider.

    Instead of people being "forced" to pay the membership fee or paying an unrealistic price, why don't potential customers simply shop elsewhere?

    Despite what you keep posting, low price, high price or anywhere in between, no-one is being forced to buy the goods or to pay for membership.



    Plenty of customers do shop elsewhere. Obviousy everyone is welcome to chose to shop elsewhere but to shop there and pay the marked ticket price rather than the RRP or inflated price you have to pay for membership.
    As I said, its bizarre how defensive customers are of this. Do you think all shops should do this?
    I find it bizzare how offended you are by Go Outdoors business model.

    Some other shops do have similar ways of restricting sales, Costco of course is members only andTesco only give special offers now to Clubcard holders. 20 years ago Matalan required membership too (but was only £1).
    I'm not offended by it, I think its unnecessary. It is nothing more than a marketing tool. Other such as Tesco have similar but the reductions are equally spurious and they don't expect you to pay for them.

  • jon81uk
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    jon81uk said:
    MarvinDay said:
    Customers are forced to pay the fee to avoid paying the unrealistic alternate full price. 
    Here's a novel idea for you to consider.

    Instead of people being "forced" to pay the membership fee or paying an unrealistic price, why don't potential customers simply shop elsewhere?

    Despite what you keep posting, low price, high price or anywhere in between, no-one is being forced to buy the goods or to pay for membership.



    Plenty of customers do shop elsewhere. Obviousy everyone is welcome to chose to shop elsewhere but to shop there and pay the marked ticket price rather than the RRP or inflated price you have to pay for membership.
    As I said, its bizarre how defensive customers are of this. Do you think all shops should do this?
    I find it bizzare how offended you are by Go Outdoors business model.

    Some other shops do have similar ways of restricting sales, Costco of course is members only andTesco only give special offers now to Clubcard holders. 20 years ago Matalan required membership too (but was only £1).
    I'm not offended by it, I think its unnecessary. It is nothing more than a marketing tool. Other such as Tesco have similar but the reductions are equally spurious and they don't expect you to pay for them.

    But if it works for Go Outdoors it is not unnecessary. They obviously think it is a necessary part of their business.
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