Chase survey

richie22_2

I have not had the survey but app only is very restrictive as the android app is always being update and I travel a lot. I keep getting this google nonsense that the app is not available in your country. So I can not use the app or access my account until I return home to update.

masonic

richie22_2 said:

I have not had the survey but app only is very restrictive as the android app is always being update and I travel a lot. I keep getting this google nonsense that the app is not available in your country. So I can not use the app or access my account until I return home to update.

Interesting. I've certainly experienced that Chase is quick to lock out earlier versions of the app when an update is released. So it would be worthwhile to have a VPN on hand if spending time abroad and wishing to use the app.

richie22_2

masonic said:

richie22_2 said:

I have not had the survey but app only is very restrictive as the android app is always being update and I travel a lot. I keep getting this google nonsense that the app is not available in your country. So I can not use the app or access my account until I return home to update.

Interesting. I've certainly experienced that Chase is quick to lock out earlier versions of the app when an update is released. So it would be worthwhile to have a VPN on hand if spending time abroad and wishing to use the app.

I have three VPN's but google still picks up your location.They only way to get around it is to change your location on your google account which then cant be changed back for 12 months. Google is not your friend

masonic

richie22_2 said:

masonic said:

richie22_2 said:

I have not had the survey but app only is very restrictive as the android app is always being update and I travel a lot. I keep getting this google nonsense that the app is not available in your country. So I can not use the app or access my account until I return home to update.

Interesting. I've certainly experienced that Chase is quick to lock out earlier versions of the app when an update is released. So it would be worthwhile to have a VPN on hand if spending time abroad and wishing to use the app.

I have three VPN's but google still picks up your location.They only way to get around it is to change your location on your google account which then cant be changed back for 12 months. Google is not your friend

Which raises the question, what signals is Google using to determine your location. Disabling location services on your device would be a must. I don't understand your comment about changing the location on your Google account - I don't see such a property associated with my account, and when I use a tool like maps, it estimates my location based on my connection (which places me at the endpoint of my VPN when I am using it).

sebtomato

masonic said:

because you can't know in advance what is at the website you are being taken to. It could contain a payload of malware (even just hosted in an ad on the page). Taking a risk-based approach, one would weigh the benefits of completing such a survey against the risks, and probably conclude that it isn't worth it.

Because you always know in advance what a link will go to?

Do you use search engines?

If your security is only click on links to websites you know, you must be quite limited when it comes to finding information online. Do you only go to website that have no ads, in case the ads would have some "malware payload" too?

I don't think clicking on a hyperlink on an email is more dangerous or less dangerous than clicking on a link on a webpage. Of course, a link on an email is more likely to lead to phishing, but if no personal details are asked... (like in this case)

masonic

sebtomato said:

masonic said:

because you can't know in advance what is at the website you are being taken to. It could contain a payload of malware (even just hosted in an ad on the page). Taking a risk-based approach, one would weigh the benefits of completing such a survey against the risks, and probably conclude that it isn't worth it.

Because you always know in advance what a link will go to?

No, as I stated "you can't know in advance what is at the website you are being taken to. It could contain a payload of malware (even just hosted in an ad on the page). Taking a risk-based approach, one would weigh the benefits of completing such a survey against the risks, and probably conclude that it isn't worth it."

sebtomato said:
Do you use search engines?

I take a risk based approach, so I do not use a search engine to find my bank's website, I obtain the URL from an authoritative and trusted source and I save it for future reference. While search engines have certainly cleaned up their act somewhat, phishing sites still manage to find their way into results from time to time.

sebtomato said:

If your security is only click on links to websites you know, you must be quite limited when it comes to finding information online. Do you only go to website that have no ads, in case the ads would have some "malware payload" too?

I have pretty aggressive ad-blocking in place to mitigate against the risk of malicious ads, and the risk is substantially lower on the sort of sites I visit. Again part of my risk-based approach. It doesn't really limit me, as the kinds of information I'm interested in get published to websites I know. If there is something I really need to look at on an unknown risky site, then I have a 'dirty' device I can use for this, that is never used for sensitive things like internet banking. But I would not visit such a site at the invitation of someone else when it is not of interest to me, such as to complete a survey.

sebtomato said:

I don't think clicking on a hyperlink on an email is more dangerous or less dangerous than clicking on a link on a webpage. Of course, a link on an email is more likely to lead to phishing, but if no personal details are asked... (like in this case)

You correctly mention that a link in email is more likely to lead to phishing, so the only reasonable conclusion to draw is that it is more dangerous. It is often not possible to see where a link is going in an email client vs web browser, so this adds a further aspect of risk. Thirdly, you cannot consider yourself safe at a malicious website if you don't disclose personal details. Merely visiting a malicious website is dangerous due to the existence of zero click vulnerabilities.

Taking into account all of the above, and using a risk-based approach, an unsolicited invitation to complete a survey sent by email is not worth completing in my view.

richie22_2

masonic said:

richie22_2 said:

masonic said:

richie22_2 said:

I have not had the survey but app only is very restrictive as the android app is always being update and I travel a lot. I keep getting this google nonsense that the app is not available in your country. So I can not use the app or access my account until I return home to update.

Interesting. I've certainly experienced that Chase is quick to lock out earlier versions of the app when an update is released. So it would be worthwhile to have a VPN on hand if spending time abroad and wishing to use the app.

I have three VPN's but google still picks up your location.They only way to get around it is to change your location on your google account which then cant be changed back for 12 months. Google is not your friend

Which raises the question, what signals is Google using to determine your location. Disabling location services on your device would be a must. I don't understand your comment about changing the location on your Google account - I don't see such a property associated with my account, and when I use a tool like maps, it estimates my location based on my connection (which places me at the endpoint of my VPN when I am using it).

How to change your Google Play country

If you move to a new country you may want to change your Google Play country. Your Google Play country determines what content you see in the store. The apps, games, and other content in the Store can vary by country.

• You must wait 12 months after initially creating a payments profile before you can change your Play country. You can only change your Play country once per year. If you change your country, you won’t be able to change it back for one year.
  • When you change your country, you won’t be able to use your that you have in your old country in your new country.
  • You may lose access to some books, movies, TV shows, games, and apps.
• To change your country, you need to set up a new country in Google Play.
  • To set up a new country, you must be in that country and have a payment method from the new country.

masonic

richie22_2 said:

masonic said:

richie22_2 said:

masonic said:

richie22_2 said:

I have not had the survey but app only is very restrictive as the android app is always being update and I travel a lot. I keep getting this google nonsense that the app is not available in your country. So I can not use the app or access my account until I return home to update.

Interesting. I've certainly experienced that Chase is quick to lock out earlier versions of the app when an update is released. So it would be worthwhile to have a VPN on hand if spending time abroad and wishing to use the app.

I have three VPN's but google still picks up your location.They only way to get around it is to change your location on your google account which then cant be changed back for 12 months. Google is not your friend

Which raises the question, what signals is Google using to determine your location. Disabling location services on your device would be a must. I don't understand your comment about changing the location on your Google account - I don't see such a property associated with my account, and when I use a tool like maps, it estimates my location based on my connection (which places me at the endpoint of my VPN when I am using it).

How to change your Google Play country

If you move to a new country you may want to change your Google Play country. Your Google Play country determines what content you see in the store. The apps, games, and other content in the Store can vary by country.

• You must wait 12 months after initially creating a payments profile before you can change your Play country. You can only change your Play country once per year. If you change your country, you won’t be able to change it back for one year.
  • When you change your country, you won’t be able to use your that you have in your old country in your new country.
  • You may lose access to some books, movies, TV shows, games, and apps.
• To change your country, you need to set up a new country in Google Play.
  • To set up a new country, you must be in that country and have a payment method from the new country.

Thanks, sounds like it is not a good idea to change this from the UK to anything else then. I guess it is unavoidable if you move somewhere else long term and want to access local apps and services, but it clearly isn't changed automatically if you simply go on a trip to another country, otherwise anyone who had travelled in the last 12 months would be affected.