Flat with pub a few doors down

jonnydeppiwish!

Totally under totally understand drinking etc with religion but I think that the only way you get the answer is if you do actually visit the pub.

Given that Eid is Sunday (I think that’s correct), would you be content to either not make an offer till next week, or make an offer then check it out?

Your own experience will be so much more insightful that the EA.

Good luck!

Rumana03

jonnydeppiwish! said:

Totally under totally understand drinking etc with religion but I think that the only way you get the answer is if you do actually visit the pub.

Given that Eid is Sunday (I think that’s correct), would you be content to either not make an offer till next week, or make an offer then check it out?

Your own experience will be so much more insightful that the EA.

Good luck!

There's no way this flat would still be available then...honestly all the places we have viewed go within a couple of days most of the time. The only ones that tend to be available for longer are ones which have tenants in them so only have certain days/times to view.
The flat seems pretty cheap as well so I think if we are interested we would need to offer as soon as possible (Friday probably as viewing tomorrow is at 5pm).

Thanks for the all the advice everyone. I'll definitely look around the road properly tomorrow and if I see anyone who lives on that road, I'll ask them what the pub is like to live near.

mark_cycling00

On the whole it's not considered a good idea. 
There was a pub at the end of my old street and I really liked the fact that there was always something open until 11.30pm and it made the street feel safer. But people who lived near it were always complaining and writing to the council etc, saying that customers wee-ed outside on their door or were shouting etc. I never saw anything but I guess it only has to happen once a week and it becomes a real pain.

jonnydeppiwish!

Rumana03 said:

jonnydeppiwish! said:

Totally under totally understand drinking etc with religion but I think that the only way you get the answer is if you do actually visit the pub.

Given that Eid is Sunday (I think that’s correct), would you be content to either not make an offer till next week, or make an offer then check it out?

Your own experience will be so much more insightful that the EA.

Good luck!

There's no way this flat would still be available then...honestly all the places we have viewed go within a couple of days most of the time. The only ones that tend to be available for longer are ones which have tenants in them so only have certain days/times to view.
The flat seems pretty cheap as well so I think if we are interested we would need to offer as soon as possible (Friday probably as viewing tomorrow is at 5pm).

Thanks for the all the advice everyone. I'll definitely look around the road properly tomorrow and if I see anyone who lives on that road, I'll ask them what the pub is like to live near.

Then you won’t lose anything by offering at that point, and come back at a later date to check the local area out. Many people do it and then withdraw from sale. Perfectly legitimate in my opinion. 

Let us know how you get on!

zagubov

We bought a house next to  a pub on a side-street in SW London/Surrey borders. 
Before buying, I called in for a drink each day of the week to suss it out. It was quiet with bands late on the summer nights, but it didn't attract any young lager-lout types, despite several changes of management. It's a kind of period/character pub that knows its customer base.
Never really been in it since my week scoping it out.
Doesn't bother me at all now. Our neighbours are muslims and don't seem bothered either.
If your local pub's like ours, you'll probably be fine. 

Ath_Wat

Rumana03 said:

Some EAs are actually quite honest. I rang about a flat last week and the EA said to me that banks tend not to give mortgages on high rise flats these days so I'd be better off looking at ones which are 4 floors.

It's in his interest to be honest about that; there's no point him wasting time on something you won't be able to buy.

Rumana03 said:

We must have bad luck as there always seems to be one issue or the other.

Well, there will be.  Unless you are lucky enough to be able to afford your perfect house, it's a matter of compromise, for everybody.  You just have to choose what to compromise on.  If all the 3 bed room places you are viewing have issues, for example, it's because "perfect" 3 bedroom places are out of your price range and you can either buy a nice 2 bed place or a 3 bed place with "issues".  Depending on your budget replace "3 bed" with "5 bed" or "houses with nine acres of woodland".

Ath_Wat

mark_cycling00 said:

On the whole it's not considered a good idea. 
There was a pub at the end of my old street and I really liked the fact that there was always something open until 11.30pm and it made the street feel safer. But people who lived near it were always complaining and writing to the council etc, saying that customers wee-ed outside on their door or were shouting etc. I never saw anything but I guess it only has to happen once a week and it becomes a real pain.

Once a week?  To be fair I don't think I'd buy a place even if the vendor said  "Oh, people only p*** on my front door once a fortnight."

GDB2222

We were opposite a pub for a while, until it thankfully closed. 

It was not rowdy, but there was still quite a lot of disturbance very late at night. Then, there were beer deliveries at around 6 in the morning. This involved dropping kegs off the truck, rolling them around, and then into the cellar. And the empty ones were thrown around quite a bit too.

We sleep with the window open, so it was a problem getting enough sleep.

Pubs obviously need to throw all the empty bottles into the recycling bin, which makes quite a racket. My wife stayed overnight in a pub where they did that after closing time, whilst they were tidying up. Around midnight. 

Slinky

We have a pub garden backing onto ours behind their high wall. It's not so much the adults that are an issue, it's the kids in the play area, conveniently placed well away from the pub, at the bottom of their garden. On a sunny afternoon there's a succession of kids screaming going on on the otherside of the wall. Literally running around screaming while their parents ignore them. We've only been here 3 years and had a couple of lovely Covid quiet summers! We've learned to filter out the sounds of talking and laughing from adults enjoying the pub garden late in the evenings, but the kids are taking a while to tune out. Hopefully we'll get there as we don't intend moving again.

Fortunately the beer cellar is at the front of the pub so we don't hear the barrels, and we rarely hear the glass going in the bins which would disturb people staying there overnight if they were to dump them late on.

TBagpuss

You don't need to go into the pub if you wouldn't be comfortable doing that - however, it might be sensible to visit the street later  in the evening - perhaps on a Friday or Saturday night to get a feel for how noisy it is, and whether there seem to be a lot of drunk / rowdy people spilling out into the street around closing time.

The other thing to be aware of is that there may be deliveries etc and those can be early in the morning as well as the noise you may get late at night from the cutomerss

Then factor that in when considering whether you are interested in the flat - for instance, is the flat on the ground floor or higher up? Which rooms have windows facing onto the street where the pub is? How sensitive to noise are you? What are the parking arrangements?

If it has outside space then that means that in the evenings there are likely to be people sitting out there and drinking, particularly in the summer (and anyone who smokes) so even if they aren't getting blind drunk, there will be noise, and people who are drinking do tend to get noisier than similar sized groups who are sober.

When there are a lot of people drinking you do also, unfortunately, get people vomiting and urinating in inappropriate places, - visiting late on a Saturday night  may give you an ideas to whether your new front door is likely to be a regular target . 

It does depend on the area, of course, and the type of pub - and on what your personal priorities and tolerances are - most of us have to compromise on some of what we want, when we buy a property, but we'll all have slightly different views about which compromises we're willing t make and which are deal-breakers.

For me personally, I am sensitive to noise, and I like to sleep with a window open, so a property very close to a pub or restaurant that was likely to have a lot of people late in the evenings would be a definite no from me,  but there are other things I'd be much more willing to accept if the property otherwise suited me.