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EURO PARKING SERVICES - PCN

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    I guess he is getting a percentage of tickets and wants that gravy train to continue.
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  • rdw_06
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    Hi, so we have now had the response back and they have refused the appeal.  They have also not offered further appeal and have said we need to pay the reduced amount of £60 (£100) within 14 days.
  • Le_Kirk
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    edited 28 April 2022 at 2:11PM
    rdw_06 said:
    Hi, so we have now had the response back and they have refused the appeal.  They have also not offered further appeal and have said we need to pay the reduced amount of £60 (£100) within 14 days.
    Who has refused the appeal?  The PPC or POPL or IAS?  Those decisions are not binding on the motorist (unless you used the scandalous, paid for IAS one) and only a judge can now tell you to pay after a fait hearing in the small claims court.
  • rdw_06
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    Le_Kirk said:
    rdw_06 said:
    Hi, so we have now had the response back and they have refused the appeal.  They have also not offered further appeal and have said we need to pay the reduced amount of £60 (£100) within 14 days.
    Who ahs refused the appeal?  The PPC or POPL or IAS?  Those decisions are not binding on the motorist (unless you used the scandalous, paid for IAS one) and only a judge can now tell you to pay after a fait hearing in the small claims court.
    The PPC (EPS) have rejected the appeal.  Correction: they are offering further appeal to IAS within 21 days.
  • Le_Kirk
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    We don't normally recommending appealing to IAS as it is a kangaroo court allowing only 4% of appeals, however sometimes it is worth it if you keep throwing evidence as them; depends how secure you think your case is.
  • Coupon-mad
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    To be clear, no-one is saying to pay. 

    Either do IAS for the laugh, or don't.

    But don't PAY unless a Judge says so.  And I don't mean IAS' finest,  Bryn Holloway...
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  • rdw_06
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    To be clear, no-one is saying to pay. 

    Either do IAS for the laugh, or don't.

    But don't PAY unless a Judge says so.  And I don't mean IAS' finest,  Bryn Holloway...
    Thank you, I will draft the appeal and post here before sending.  I was thinking to appeal to IAS with a 2-word cryptic challenge 🤬but I don’t think that would go nicely in our favour 😅.  ?? Bryn Holloway.
  • rdw_06
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    Le_Kirk said:
    We don't normally recommending appealing to IAS as it is a kangaroo court allowing only 4% of appeals, however sometimes it is worth it if you keep throwing evidence as them; depends how secure you think your case is.
    Would the allowance of a grace period be a strong enough argument
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,835 Forumite
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    edited 30 April 2022 at 9:25AM
    ?? Bryn Holloway.
    Lead Adjudicator (and apologist) for the IAS.  He doesn't do any actual adjudication as far as we can make out, he's just a figurehead in an attempt to give the sham some degree of respectability/credibility. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 4 July at 10:15PM
    He also issues IAS Annual Reports that boast about how wonderful they and IPC members are, buried in the stats that the past 3 years have seen IAS find in favour of consumers in an average of just 5% of cases, and includes in his intro, scathing (and some might say, biased) political points about the Parking Code of Practice.

    A retired Judge, he seems to have friends in the IPC and his reports come across that way.  I saw one that was downright rude about consumer appeals during Covid.
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