Rejecting vehicle

GDB2222

iwb100 said:

GDB2222 said:

Michael_J said:

iwb100 said:

diystarter7 said:

Michael_J said:

Thanks for your reply guys.

I might be going for a kia next, the 7 years warranty attracts me somehow

I was going to suggest a Kia/Toyota or a Kia as they come with ad 5 and 7 year warranty. The big Kia, looks great but I've never been in them. Thy have loads of toys and long warranty but as a friend said who moved from a BMW X3 to a Hyundai Santefe, he missed the BMW.

Go for, save a bit of money and I've been in my friend's Santefe se I think it is - I've never seen so many toys in a car and the leather is second to none IMO and the sound system on his se is the best I've heard.

The Santa Fe is relatively expensive, new at least. It’s very nice. As is the Kia Sorrento. But they both start new over £40K which also adds the luxury car VED premium too.

For large 7 seater SUVs you can get the VW group ones considerably cheaper. Tiguan allspace starts at £33K and is lovely. The Skoda Kodiaq which I have on order and ranks right up there is just over £30K start and a high spec under 40 as is the Seat Tarraco.

Thanks!

Actually, Ive booked a test drive for a Kia Niro 4, as my missus said the RR was my option so now she wants the new one to be her option ))). Its just about 30k, a bit smaller, but full of toys and buttons for this price. See how it goes..

Also, iv wrote the letter to RR explaing I would like some sort of compromise with them buying it back. Just waiting now

It’s partly the toys and buttons that make the RR unreliable.

Yet the luxury German brands packed with options aren’t. Nor are the Kia’s, Hyundai’s, etc also loaded with tech….

I currently drive a 15 year old Volvo C70, that I've had from almost new. I've never had a problem with the main mechanical parts. But, the incredibly complicated roof is now causing me problems.

I used to have a Mazda MX5, with a fabric roof, and it it just worked! There's an awful lot to be said for just keeping it simple.

iwb100

GDB2222 said:

iwb100 said:

GDB2222 said:

Michael_J said:

iwb100 said:

diystarter7 said:

Michael_J said:

Thanks for your reply guys.

I might be going for a kia next, the 7 years warranty attracts me somehow

I was going to suggest a Kia/Toyota or a Kia as they come with ad 5 and 7 year warranty. The big Kia, looks great but I've never been in them. Thy have loads of toys and long warranty but as a friend said who moved from a BMW X3 to a Hyundai Santefe, he missed the BMW.

Go for, save a bit of money and I've been in my friend's Santefe se I think it is - I've never seen so many toys in a car and the leather is second to none IMO and the sound system on his se is the best I've heard.

The Santa Fe is relatively expensive, new at least. It’s very nice. As is the Kia Sorrento. But they both start new over £40K which also adds the luxury car VED premium too.

For large 7 seater SUVs you can get the VW group ones considerably cheaper. Tiguan allspace starts at £33K and is lovely. The Skoda Kodiaq which I have on order and ranks right up there is just over £30K start and a high spec under 40 as is the Seat Tarraco.

Thanks!

Actually, Ive booked a test drive for a Kia Niro 4, as my missus said the RR was my option so now she wants the new one to be her option ))). Its just about 30k, a bit smaller, but full of toys and buttons for this price. See how it goes..

Also, iv wrote the letter to RR explaing I would like some sort of compromise with them buying it back. Just waiting now

It’s partly the toys and buttons that make the RR unreliable.

Yet the luxury German brands packed with options aren’t. Nor are the Kia’s, Hyundai’s, etc also loaded with tech….

I currently drive a 15 year old Volvo C70, that I've had from almost new. I've never had a problem with the main mechanical parts. But, the incredibly complicated roof is now causing me problems.

I used to have a Mazda MX5, with a fabric roof, and it it just worked! There's an awful lot to be said for just keeping it simple.

I mean tech can have faults but that’s like saying use a CRT cos flatscreens are more advanced and might go wrong. Buying solid reliable brands and things are fine. I’ve owned a lot of VAG cars and only ever had one issue. VW engine failure out of warranty which they fixed for free thankfully as it took two weeks diagnosis.

Also owned Japanese cars and only ever had one issue where a catalytic converter failed. That was an expensive fix. 

But generally never had issues and issues are less common for me now (touch wood) than ever. Even as the tech advances.

Ectophile

Back in the olden days, when Land Rovers were proper Land Rovers, everybody knew they rattled and squeaked and leaked oil everywhere.  You knew that if it wasn't leaking oil, then the oil needed topping up, and if anything did go wrong, you'd fix it with baling wire until it could be repaired properly.  And I did fix my old Land Rover with baling wire.  Twice.

Now Land Rover make expensive luxo-barges.  And they still rattle and squeak and leak oil everywhere.  But the new owners don't seem to put up with that any more.

ontheroad1970

A very good friend of mine has had 3 RR Evoques and had no problems with any of them - he must be using up the good reliability of the whole brand

Michael_J

UPDATE:

The dealership got back to me saying how sorry they feel because of this and "With regards to rejecting the car, this is not an option with the length of time you have the car. I am happy to buy the car back but it would be at its current market value, which I see to be around £27000"

Im just taking it as an insult...

Any other options would you guys say I could have?

shiraz99

Michael_J said:

UPDATE:

The dealership got back to me saying how sorry they feel because of this and "With regards to rejecting the car, this is not an option with the length of time you have the car. I am happy to buy the car back but it would be at its current market value, which I see to be around £27000"

Im just taking it as an insult...

Any other options would you guys say I could have?

I'd be asking how does the "market value" of such a car drop £12K in less than 12 months, particularly in the current climate. They are legally entitled to reduce any refund to take into account the usage you have had but I think £12K for 8 months is taking the p**s a bit and I'm not sure they are allowed to take things like current market value or depreciation into account when calculating this.

Rather than buying it back at what looks like trade can they not give you the option to swapping it for another, similarly aged model in their range? Although the dealer is liable for this, given that they're a main dealer have you spoken to LR customer services regarding this and getting their input?

victor2

shiraz99 said:

Michael_J said:

UPDATE:

The dealership got back to me saying how sorry they feel because of this and "With regards to rejecting the car, this is not an option with the length of time you have the car. I am happy to buy the car back but it would be at its current market value, which I see to be around £27000"

Im just taking it as an insult...

Any other options would you guys say I could have?

I'd be asking how does the "market value" of such a car drop £12K in less than 12 months, particularly in the current climate. They are legally entitled to reduce any refund to take into account the usage you have had but I think £12K for 8 months is taking the p**s a bit and I'm not sure they are allowed to take things like current market value or depreciation into account when calculating this.

But it has a fault, so the dealer has to sort that and still sell it on for a healthy profit. 
OP could get it fixed then try to sell it privately or see what trade-in value it has elsewhere for a more reliable brand.

shiraz99

victor2 said:

shiraz99 said:

Michael_J said:

UPDATE:

The dealership got back to me saying how sorry they feel because of this and "With regards to rejecting the car, this is not an option with the length of time you have the car. I am happy to buy the car back but it would be at its current market value, which I see to be around £27000"

Im just taking it as an insult...

Any other options would you guys say I could have?

I'd be asking how does the "market value" of such a car drop £12K in less than 12 months, particularly in the current climate. They are legally entitled to reduce any refund to take into account the usage you have had but I think £12K for 8 months is taking the p**s a bit and I'm not sure they are allowed to take things like current market value or depreciation into account when calculating this.

But it has a fault, so the dealer has to sort that and still sell it on for a healthy profit. 
OP could get it fixed then try to sell it privately or see what trade-in value it has elsewhere for a more reliable brand.

That's not the OP's problem, well it is currently, but you know what I mean. They can't reduce the refund to take into account the actual fault(s) they are liable for.

Grumpy_chap

Michael_J said:

UPDATE:

The dealership got back to me saying how sorry they feel because of this and "With regards to rejecting the car, this is not an option with the length of time you have the car. I am happy to buy the car back but it would be at its current market value, which I see to be around £27000"

Im just taking it as an insult...

Any other options would you guys say I could have?

How does that valuation compare with WBAC and the like?

GDB2222

shiraz99 said:

victor2 said:

shiraz99 said:

Michael_J said:

UPDATE:

The dealership got back to me saying how sorry they feel because of this and "With regards to rejecting the car, this is not an option with the length of time you have the car. I am happy to buy the car back but it would be at its current market value, which I see to be around £27000"

Im just taking it as an insult...

Any other options would you guys say I could have?

I'd be asking how does the "market value" of such a car drop £12K in less than 12 months, particularly in the current climate. They are legally entitled to reduce any refund to take into account the usage you have had but I think £12K for 8 months is taking the p**s a bit and I'm not sure they are allowed to take things like current market value or depreciation into account when calculating this.

But it has a fault, so the dealer has to sort that and still sell it on for a healthy profit. 
OP could get it fixed then try to sell it privately or see what trade-in value it has elsewhere for a more reliable brand.

That's not the OP's problem, well it is currently, but you know what I mean. They can't reduce the refund to take into account the actual fault(s) they are liable for.

If the product is inherently unreliable, and that is well known, is the dealer liable?