Is RTS Economy 7 meter going to stop working?

RomfordNavy
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edited 30 March 2022 at 12:10PM in Energy
Not much information that I can find but I am concerned about whether our Economy 7 meter is going to stop switching on the 1st April as I have read that the RTS signal which does the time switching is going to be turned off.  Meter is a Sangamo S309.5, does this use the old RTS?
Don't want a smart meter so is it possible to get meter upgraded to a more modern non-smart meter if necessary?
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  • MWT
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    Not much information that I can find but I am concerned about whether our Economy 7 meter is going to stop switching on the 1st April as I have read that the RTS signal which does the time switching is going to be turned off.  Meter is a Sangamo S309.5, does this use the old RTS?

    It isn't going to stop switching even when the RTS signal goes away, it will continue to switch based on its own internal clock, it just won't be as accurate and may drift over time.

    Don't want a smart meter so is it possible to get meter upgraded to a more modern non-smart meter if necessary?
    No, the only replacement you will get will be a smart meter, and it will become unavoidable fairly soon as your existing meter will be considered in need of replacement.


  • jimexbox
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    edited 30 March 2022 at 12:30PM
    My E7 meter isn't rts. So the cheap time changes depending if its gmt or bst. 
  • jimexbox said:
    My E7 meter isn't rts. So the cheap time changes depending if its gmt or bst. 
    So is it possible to get an RTS meter changed for a non-RTS Economy 7 meter like you have.

  • jimexbox
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    So is it possible to get an RTS meter changed for a non-RTS Economy 7 meter like you have.

    The meter has been in decades. It definitely doesn't have radio meter. If you get a smart meter you can still get E7 rates, or more specific ones for charging electric vehicles. 
  • jimexbox said:
    The meter has been in decades. It definitely doesn't have radio meter. If you get a smart meter you can still get E7 rates, or more specific ones for charging electric vehicles. 
    But like I said, we don't want a smart meter.

  • jimexbox
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    Then your default is a dumb E7 meter like I have. The 7 reduced rate hours would move with the clocks.

    That's if your energy provider doesn't say your meter is now faulty and requires changing to a smart meter. 
  • RomfordNavy
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    Now I understand, thanks.
    So need to keep an eye on the normal/low switching times.  Anyone know how to adjust the internal clock if it goes wrong?
  • Hi,
    you can't adjust internal clock, or folks would have it set to cheap rate 24/7.
  • Gerry1
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    Now I understand, thanks.
    So need to keep an eye on the normal/low switching times.  Anyone know how to adjust the internal clock if it goes wrong?
    You won't notice any difference.  It might drift a minute a year, just like a digital watch if you don't set it by the Greenwich Time Signal.
  • RomfordNavy
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    Off the subject but this has got me thinking: is there any profit to be made by getting some industrial batteries and an inverter.  That could be charged up during cheap rate period and used to provide that stored power during the higher rate period.
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