No tv license

flaneurs_lobster

Cornucopia said:

Only live TV channels (Eurosport?) carried by Amazon Prime Video definitively need a TV Licence to view.   

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The issue is the over-use of the word "live".   That isn't the defining factor.   The true issue is whether the stream is concurrent with a TV channel that you could receive via Terrestrial, Satellite or Cable TV.

So what is the status of the England - Barbarians rugby debacle match that I watched on Sunday. Shown on Amazon Prime as a live stream and not (AFAIK) available on any other platform?

Cornucopia

flaneurs_lobster said:

Cornucopia said:

Only live TV channels (Eurosport?) carried by Amazon Prime Video definitively need a TV Licence to view.   

<........snip.........>

The issue is the over-use of the word "live".   That isn't the defining factor.   The true issue is whether the stream is concurrent with a TV channel that you could receive via Terrestrial, Satellite or Cable TV.

So what is the status of the England - Barbarians rugby debacle match that I watched on Sunday. Shown on Amazon Prime as a live stream and not (AFAIK) available on any other platform?

If it's unique to Amazon, then that's not a TV channel, and no Licence is required.

julie777

Thanks to Cornucopia for your very helpful explanations.

iniltous

From the licence site , it doesn’t just say live channel but live TV programming 

When you need a TV Licence

Watch or record TV programmes live on any channel
(e.g. ITV, E4 or Dave - not just the BBC)?

Watch or record TV programmes live on any paid-for TV service
(e.g. Sky, Virgin or BT)?

Watch (or 'stream') TV programmes live on an online TV service
(e.g. ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now TV or Sky Go)?

Watch or record TV programmes live on foreign channels, via satellite or online streaming?

Download or watch any BBC programmes on BBC iPlayer?

Olinda99

if you are streaming something from the internet at the same time as it is being broadcast (eg a live stream of Ascension Island TV) then you need a licence

If you are streaming something at same time as it is produced but it is not being broadcast (eg your mate playing his guitar or Amazon's own coverage of a rugby match only available online via Prime) then you don't.

Cornucopia

iniltous said:

From the licence site , it doesn’t just say live channel but live TV programming 

Depends where you look...

Watching YouTube
...

But you DO need a TV Licence if you watch TV programmes live on YouTube. An example of this would be watching Sky News live. But it isn’t just live news or sport which needs a licence – it’s any programme which is part of a TV channel, broadcast or transmitted for everyone to watch at the same time.

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ33

The reason why it is definitely TV channels is because the legislation that it's based on uses the term "television programme service" which means a linear broadcast TV channel.

brewerdave

For the nth time ,this thread shows why BBC funding needs to be separated from the TV licence to allow abolition of the archaic licence!

Olinda99

brewerdave said:

For the nth time ,this thread shows why BBC funding needs to be separated from the TV licence to allow abolition of the archaic licence!

you are being generous - I would say n to the power of x squared