Ukraine house guests

Sandtree

I suspect we will see a string of announcements from banks, insurers etc...  the CEO for LV= insurance has come out that they will include any Ukrainian refuges you take in within the definition of Family of your home insurance as per https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stephen-treloar-a95b525_ukrainian-refugee-and-asylum-seekers-lv-activity-6909371954017751040-T--V

Others will want the same PR 

Scotbot

sourpuss2021 said:

Slithery said:

sourpuss2021 said:
In that event they wouldn't have to do a full six month stretch, I'd give them time off for bad behaviour!     Hopefully they could be evicted just as a lodger would be.

So not a 'fixed period of six months' as you said then?

Well, surely the scheme will allow either party to end the arrangement at any point in the event of a serious issue or change of situation for either party.  Including the best case that returning to Ukraine becomes safe again. 

Whatever the rules are it is a very volatile and disturbing situation. If you took someone in and it wasn't working I think it could get awkward and distressing for both of you.Your earlier post said you hadn't taken refugees before because it felt like a heavy situation, that's because it is. Good luck if you go for it. 

Grumpy_chap

Gavin83 said:

I meant that rather than dotting them around the country living with people who don't speak their language they'd be better off living in the same area. Support would be much easier to provide, they'd have people close to them who speak the same language/share the same culture and it would be easier to provide teaching to the children.

If I was a terrified refugee having been forced to live in a foreign country I suspect it would provide some comfort to have some people from my home country nearby.

Would it be the case that most Ukrainian refugees that make UK their destination will have some reason to choose UK as the onward destination?  That is quite possibly going to include some language skill.

The first evacuation is to the first place of safety, whether Moldova, Poland, Romania or Slovakia.  They breath that sigh of relief and then, it seems, have some individual discretion and choice as to where to travel next (accepting that first choice would be to not have travelled in the first place).  An individual with a competency in, say, Italian language would likely not head to UK and and individual with competency in English language is more likely to head to UK or Ireland than elsewhere.

sourpuss2021

Scotbot said:

sourpuss2021 said:

Slithery said:

sourpuss2021 said:
In that event they wouldn't have to do a full six month stretch, I'd give them time off for bad behaviour!     Hopefully they could be evicted just as a lodger would be.

So not a 'fixed period of six months' as you said then?

Well, surely the scheme will allow either party to end the arrangement at any point in the event of a serious issue or change of situation for either party.  Including the best case that returning to Ukraine becomes safe again. 

Whatever the rules are it is a very volatile and disturbing situation. If you took someone in and it wasn't working I think it could get awkward and distressing for both of you.Your earlier post said you hadn't taken refugees before because it felt like a heavy situation, that's because it is. Good luck if you go for it. 

Thanks!  I think having discussed a few issues I'd not be ready for it yet, but later on when hopefully the hostilities have ended and the scheme is more established I could do it.  

Snow_Angel

For anyone who may be interested, the Sanctuary Foundation have a free online information event tonight and will be addressing a lot of the questions people may have: 

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/ukraine-humanitarian-sponsorship-information-evening-tickets-296455585637

Noneforit999

Snookie12cat said:

I would be more concerned about having a stranger I know nothing about in my house with my family and very vague rules around how long they are expected to stay etc.

Yup, this is precisely what puts me off. Its great that some people are not put off by this but with a 2 year old and Wife at home while I am working, its not a risk I am prepared to take, regardless of any additional money.

SuseOrm

If it was 350 per guest it could potentially be a bit more workable and in all honesty I would move out and move in with family and let them have the entire house to themselves for £350 just isn’t really gonna cut it

MobileSaver

SuseOrm said:

If it was 350 per guest it could potentially be a bit more workable and in all honesty I would move out and move in with family and let them have the entire house to themselves for £350 just isn’t really gonna cut it

I suspect that's exactly why it's set at that amount at this moment in time.

As @aoleks and others have already mentioned, this is not designed to be a money-making exercise or even a break-even exercise. It's just designed to give a helping-hand thank-you to people who genuinely want to help refugees fleeing the war in Ukraine. These are people persons who probably already volunteer to help at the Samaritans or charity shops or local community events and would offer a room to a refugee with or without a government payout.

Sandtree

SuseOrm said:

If it was 350 per guest it could potentially be a bit more workable and in all honesty I would move out and move in with family and let them have the entire house to themselves for £350 just isn’t really gonna cut it

What do you mean "workable" @Suseorm? Sounds like you mean profitable which would mean you have totally missed the point.

Just look at how many Poles have been homing Ukrainians who's finances are much tighter than British and aren't receiving any governmental monies. 

SuseOrm

Sandtree said:

SuseOrm said:

If it was 350 per guest it could potentially be a bit more workable and in all honesty I would move out and move in with family and let them have the entire house to themselves for £350 just isn’t really gonna cut it

What do you mean "workable" @Suseorm? Sounds like you mean profitable which would mean you have totally missed the point.

Just look at how many Poles have been homing Ukrainians who's finances are much tighter than British and aren't receiving any governmental monies. 

And if the Scottish and the Welsh were in a similar predicament to the Ukrainians I guess we all just open our homes and budge up for that but these guys arent actually our neighbours,  so by the time they get to the UK they’re not quite in emergency Dire Straits are they ?  The polls are actually receiving payment by the way

£700 for each adult actually wouldn’t cover the costs of giving them my whole house but it would cover the bills and it would allow these people bit more dignity.  

Personally I think the whole thing is utterly on workable these people need their privacy to heal and to rebuild their lives whether they stay in the UK or go home it doesn’t matter.