Garden tap and wobbly pipe

Bendy_House

Dedekind said:

Bendy_House said:

Dedekind said:

Having quite a hard time removing this..

Is the copper pipe going through the wall well supported inside the building? (I'm wondering how you managed to PUSH that fitting on?)

Anyhoo, see the back of that plastic fitting, where it meets the wall? That's the release collar, so if you push that into the fitting, the fitting should slip off. 
Another way might be to keep the fitting under mains water pressure, whilst you accidentally push that fitting inwards, and the collar is pressed in unexpectedly...

Well the thing is that the collar does not get to touch the wall.. so just pushing doesn't do anything. I tried wedging something in between to push and release with no success. 

I wonder if I can just glue/caulk around? To be fair the pipe is not big deal. The fitting is weird though as the brass part keeps turning on the connector..

The fitting can rotate as it's allowed to. The watertight seal is made using a rubber O-ring, and the pipe is held on the fitting using a grab ring - there's nothing that prevents rotation, and that's one of push-fit's great 'pros'.

That collar SHOULD release that grab ring, but don't expect the fitting to just fall off... If you can lever that collar in snugly ALL THE WAY AROUND, then the grab ring will be released. The fitting might still require a good tug (matron!), tho', AND you'll need to keep the collar pressed in all of the the time. AND it often helps if you FIRST press the fitting TOWARDS the pipe - that properly releases the grab ring. THEN pull the fitting off - whilst still keeping the collar pressed in.

See? Peasy...

Belenus

Dedekind said:

 But the pipe is wobbly as the hole in the wall is ever so slightly larger, 

Is the hole slightly larger all the way thorough the wall?

That might let cold air inside the house.

I would also be slightly concerned about very cold weather freezing the pipe inside the wall and it possibly bursting inside the house.

FreeBear

Carrot007 said: Just replace the lot with proper copper pipe and a stop just inside as shoudl have been done anyway.

Should also have a check (or no return) valve as well as a stop tap internally - Not every one fits them....

Dedekind

OK have some extra concerns now  

The pipe goes inside and then almost immediately bends down before it reaches the blocks of the construction. It's covered by the render but if I recall correctly it does not go inside properly speaking 

Dedekind

Bendy_House said:

Dedekind said:

Bendy_House said:

Dedekind said:

Having quite a hard time removing this..

Is the copper pipe going through the wall well supported inside the building? (I'm wondering how you managed to PUSH that fitting on?)

Anyhoo, see the back of that plastic fitting, where it meets the wall? That's the release collar, so if you push that into the fitting, the fitting should slip off. 
Another way might be to keep the fitting under mains water pressure, whilst you accidentally push that fitting inwards, and the collar is pressed in unexpectedly...

Well the thing is that the collar does not get to touch the wall.. so just pushing doesn't do anything. I tried wedging something in between to push and release with no success. 

I wonder if I can just glue/caulk around? To be fair the pipe is not big deal. The fitting is weird though as the brass part keeps turning on the connector..

The fitting can rotate as it's allowed to. The watertight seal is made using a rubber O-ring, and the pipe is held on the fitting using a grab ring - there's nothing that prevents rotation, and that's one of push-fit's great 'pros'.

That collar SHOULD release that grab ring, but don't expect the fitting to just fall off... If you can lever that collar in snugly ALL THE WAY AROUND, then the grab ring will be released. The fitting might still require a good tug (matron!), tho', AND you'll need to keep the collar pressed in all of the the time. AND it often helps if you FIRST press the fitting TOWARDS the pipe - that properly releases the grab ring. THEN pull the fitting off - whilst still keeping the collar pressed in.

See? Peasy...

Easier said than done but will give another try as it appears this is not the right connector then. Even if the pipe was fully fixed and didn't move, the turning is no good for the tap movement.

FreeBear

Dedekind said:

OK have some extra concerns now  

The pipe goes inside and then almost immediately bends down before it reaches the blocks of the construction. It's covered by the render but if I recall correctly it does not go inside properly speaking 

I'll throw another one in for you to ponder...

Copper pipes buried in cement or plaster can eventually corrode leading to pinhole leaks. Depending on the quality of copper, it could be 15 years or as long as 30. If you are burying copper in walls/floors, it is best to sleeve it in plastic - 20mm electrical conduit is the perfect size for 15mm pipe.

plumb1_2

Dedekind said:

Bendy_House said:

Dedekind said:

Bendy_House said:

Dedekind said:

Having quite a hard time removing this..

Is the copper pipe going through the wall well supported inside the building? (I'm wondering how you managed to PUSH that fitting on?)

Anyhoo, see the back of that plastic fitting, where it meets the wall? That's the release collar, so if you push that into the fitting, the fitting should slip off. 
Another way might be to keep the fitting under mains water pressure, whilst you accidentally push that fitting inwards, and the collar is pressed in unexpectedly...

Well the thing is that the collar does not get to touch the wall.. so just pushing doesn't do anything. I tried wedging something in between to push and release with no success. 

I wonder if I can just glue/caulk around? To be fair the pipe is not big deal. The fitting is weird though as the brass part keeps turning on the connector..

The fitting can rotate as it's allowed to. The watertight seal is made using a rubber O-ring, and the pipe is held on the fitting using a grab ring - there's nothing that prevents rotation, and that's one of push-fit's great 'pros'.

That collar SHOULD release that grab ring, but don't expect the fitting to just fall off... If you can lever that collar in snugly ALL THE WAY AROUND, then the grab ring will be released. The fitting might still require a good tug (matron!), tho', AND you'll need to keep the collar pressed in all of the the time. AND it often helps if you FIRST press the fitting TOWARDS the pipe - that properly releases the grab ring. THEN pull the fitting off - whilst still keeping the collar pressed in.

See? Peasy...

Easier said than done but will give another try as it appears this is not the right connector then. Even if the pipe was fully fixed and didn't move, the turning is no good for the tap movement.

I could tell you how to remove the fitting in 5seconds but I am to lazy.

plumb1_2

FreeBear said:

Carrot007 said: Just replace the lot with proper copper pipe and a stop just inside as shoudl have been done anyway.

Should also have a check (or no return) valve as well as a stop tap internally - Not every one fits them....

Correct that’s why the average diyer often breaks the water bylaws, then moans when things go wrong.