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A tenant who has issues with their neighbour - please help
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Bendy_House said:canaldumidi said:Bendy_House said:andy444 said:Unfortunately there's no silver bullet to sort out your problem.
One of the advantages of renting is that it's a lot easier to move if you don't like where you live. If you only have a short minimum term tenancy, then you'll likely be best to wait it out and move when you can.
There could be - if the LL could be bothered.I've explained.I'd like to think that if I were a LL, I'd respond to such a complaint about a tenant. For all the effort it would take, I'd visit the victim and see if their complaint was justified. If it was, I'd give the miscreant tenant a warning. I suspect that's all it would take.In the current clime of house shortages and high rents, I think you'd be nuts to let yourself be at risk of being thrown out.
The people who do have other practical sanctions, such as confiscation of equipment, are the Council.1 -
anselld said:
The OP explained in the first post that the L was initially pro-active in talking to the T but was then ignored. After that the options for eviction via the courts are (probably rightly) going to favour the T. Both the T and the L will know that there is no practical further measures which can be taken so it is pointless for the L to become further involved.I've explained.I'd like to think that if I were a LL, I'd respond to such a complaint about a tenant. For all the effort it would take, I'd visit the victim and see if their complaint was justified. If it was, I'd give the miscreant tenant a warning. I suspect that's all it would take.In the current clime of house shortages and high rents, I think you'd be nuts to let yourself be at risk of being thrown out.
The people who do have other practical sanctions, such as confiscation of equipment, are the Council.Indeed, if the LL cannot be bothered, then that avenue is pretty much defunct.I'd challenge the "no further practical measures..." part, tho'; there is a very practical measure the LL could take if they were so inclined. It's within their remit, and it's disappointing if they do not use their rights for good.All that assumes, of course, that the other tenant is being unreasonable and anti-social.
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The music appears to be a one off, I appreciate you have the ongoing issue of the TV noise, but I personally wouldn't have reported the music straight away. Like you said the tenant wants a reaction from you. Sometimes it's easier (for your own sanity) to makes changes we can control, rather than spending time and energy on something that may never happen.
You're working from home, find an office space somewhere.
The weather will be getting brighter soon, you can enjoy the garden.
Get out of the house as much as possible.
Yes it's not ideal, but at least it's rented and not purchased!
We used to live next door to some noisy neighbours. I often wondered how they still had a wall standing after the amount of nails we heard them banging in. (Among the other noises arguing, TV, we had to endure) We laugh now but there was a time it started to consume us. It's always easier to control your own actions than others.
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I can't comment on the exact situation as I'm not there, but try to disconnect from your programmed response for a second and ask yourself: is it really that much of a problem?
leaving aside the fact that it seems to be happening most of the time, would it still be an issue if it was only 3 times a week, when whatever favourite film is on?
should you watch TV and this new film you really love (or the chase) came out, would your volume be similar? would you want to be able to enjoy your TV without neighbours telling you off for it being "too loud"?
we can sometimes hear the neighbours watching TV, sometimes it's "loud" (you can barely hear it, but it's there), but that's just the way things are. I would be fuming if I did the same and they told me not to... or if I had a complaint every time we're having a BBQ in the summer and 20 people are invited, listening to music and chatting loudly.
you live in a flat, you can't expect the privacy of a detached house.
if it really is blaring, then I'm sure other neighbours will be bothered as well, it can't be just you who's upset.0 -
Hi there,
I just wanted to thank everyone for their helpful responses, sympathy and suggestions to my situation. It makes me feel a bit more heard as the letting agents have been gaslighting us to think it’s weird to feel anxious over sound issues.
To update you all, because the noise is taking place during non anti social hours it doesn’t seem like there is much we can do. Judging by the way the tenant escalated things by playing the music, I feel nervous saying anything else. He hasn’t done that since and I’ve taken the time to get away from the flat to have some peace and time away from it all.
I would really appreciate any advice on whether an early surrender would be possible. I know through research that it all depends on the landlord and what they decide and then there can be costs inferred which concerns me. It would be great to know if anyone had experience with surrendering early?
the whole situation has a negative effect on me and I’ve been referred to counselling to help deal with my anxiety. Because it’s our home and happening on a daily basis it just doesn’t seem like it will be manageable for a year.1 -
Camel310 said:Hi there,
I just wanted to thank everyone for their helpful responses, sympathy and suggestions to my situation. It makes me feel a bit more heard as the letting agents have been gaslighting us to think it’s weird to feel anxious over sound issues.
To update you all, because the noise is taking place during non anti social hours it doesn’t seem like there is much we can do. Judging by the way the tenant escalated things by playing the music, I feel nervous saying anything else. He hasn’t done that since and I’ve taken the time to get away from the flat to have some peace and time away from it all.
I would really appreciate any advice on whether an early surrender would be possible. I know through research that it all depends on the landlord and what they decide and then there can be costs inferred which concerns me. It would be great to know if anyone had experience with surrendering early?
the whole situation has a negative effect on me and I’ve been referred to counselling to help deal with my anxiety. Because it’s our home and happening on a daily basis it just doesn’t seem like it will be manageable for a year.
Just ask the LL if its possible to surrender/end the agreement early.
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DCFC79 said:Camel310 said:Hi there,
I just wanted to thank everyone for their helpful responses, sympathy and suggestions to my situation. It makes me feel a bit more heard as the letting agents have been gaslighting us to think it’s weird to feel anxious over sound issues.
To update you all, because the noise is taking place during non anti social hours it doesn’t seem like there is much we can do. Judging by the way the tenant escalated things by playing the music, I feel nervous saying anything else. He hasn’t done that since and I’ve taken the time to get away from the flat to have some peace and time away from it all.
I would really appreciate any advice on whether an early surrender would be possible. I know through research that it all depends on the landlord and what they decide and then there can be costs inferred which concerns me. It would be great to know if anyone had experience with surrendering early?
the whole situation has a negative effect on me and I’ve been referred to counselling to help deal with my anxiety. Because it’s our home and happening on a daily basis it just doesn’t seem like it will be manageable for a year.
Just ask the LL if its possible to surrender/end the agreement early.0 -
I don't know what to advise about trying to end the agreement early, other than 'no harm in asking', I guess.What could help to make it more persuasive? I don't know - perhaps if you can explain that, since the neighbour seems set on retaliating to any complaint - eg by putting on loud repeated music - you can only anticipate the situation will escalate as time goes on. Your LL might consider they'll be ending a potentially on-going situation for them if they don't allow you to move.BUT, I don't know if this is a good approach. See what other folk say.0
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