Building Regulation asking for plans for building - confusion about scale 1:1250

user1168934

I have a mid-terraced house where I am doing a small extension at the back. I made a Building Regulation application of type "building notice". The initial notes were asking for a "block plan" which I searched and found to be a wider view of the whole row of houses and the street etc. I copied that from my tile plan, put some notes on it and submitted that but they have come back asking for:

"Existing and proposed plans for the building (s) in relation to the site boundaries and other buildings on the site with their internal dimensions marked."

Now that sounds similar to the floor plan that you see on RighMove? I did google about it so please no suggestions to google it.

I tried speaking to the person at building control but they were not particularly helpful. They simply said if you are not familiar then hire an architect. I was thinking of drawing the floor plan myself but the person over the phone said the plan should be no less than the scale 1:1250. This sounds like a very small scale to draw up a floor plan - basically a 12meter length would be less than 1 cm.

Have i misunderstood something? Can someone help please.

Section62

user1168934 said:

I have a mid-terraced house where I am doing a small extension at the back. I made a Building Regulation application of type "building notice". The initial notes were asking for a "block plan" which I searched and found to be a wider view of the whole row of houses and the street etc. I copied that from my tile plan, put some notes on it and submitted that but they have come back asking for:

"Existing and proposed plans for the building (s) in relation to the site boundaries and other buildings on the site with their internal dimensions marked."

Now that sounds similar to the floor plan that you see on RighMove? I did google about it so please no suggestions to google it.

I tried speaking to the person at building control but they were not particularly helpful. They simply said if you are not familiar then hire an architect. I was thinking of drawing the floor plan myself but the person over the phone said the plan should be no less than the scale 1:1250. This sounds like a very small scale to draw up a floor plan - basically a 12meter length would be less than 1 cm.

Have i misunderstood something? Can someone help please.

As per my reply on the thread you started on this topic the other day -

"Not less than" means you can draw a plan at a suitable scale to show the building/changes clearly.  It doesn't have to be exactly 1:1250.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6338644/block-plan-for-a-building-notice-type-application

stuart45

1:500 would probably be about right.

user1168934

Section62 said:

user1168934 said:

I have a mid-terraced house where I am doing a small extension at the back. I made a Building Regulation application of type "building notice". The initial notes were asking for a "block plan" which I searched and found to be a wider view of the whole row of houses and the street etc. I copied that from my tile plan, put some notes on it and submitted that but they have come back asking for:

"Existing and proposed plans for the building (s) in relation to the site boundaries and other buildings on the site with their internal dimensions marked."

Now that sounds similar to the floor plan that you see on RighMove? I did google about it so please no suggestions to google it.

I tried speaking to the person at building control but they were not particularly helpful. They simply said if you are not familiar then hire an architect. I was thinking of drawing the floor plan myself but the person over the phone said the plan should be no less than the scale 1:1250. This sounds like a very small scale to draw up a floor plan - basically a 12meter length would be less than 1 cm.

Have i misunderstood something? Can someone help please.

As per my reply on the thread you started on this topic the other day -

"Not less than" means you can draw a plan at a suitable scale to show the building/changes clearly.  It doesn't have to be exactly 1:1250.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6338644/block-plan-for-a-building-notice-type-application

Thanks, I read your reply but it I think no less than 1:1250 means it can only be more but not less. As in 1 meter on the drawing can represent 1250 meters or more (but not less).

What am I missing? I really don't understand.

Apologies if I am just being stupid.

stuart45

What it means is that it can't be 1:2500 for example as that would be too small a scale to read. For a smaller house and extension a bigger scale of 1:500 or bigger would be easier to read.

user1168934

stuart45 said:

What it means is that it can't be 1:2500 for example as that would be too small a scale to read. For a smaller house and extension a bigger scale of 1:500 or bigger would be easier to read.

Right so it is treated like a fraction rather than 1 meter can represent 1250 meters or more?

theoretica

Yes - a large scale map/plan is one where the plan is bigger (so can show more detail). 

Andy_L

user1168934 said:

stuart45 said:

What it means is that it can't be 1:2500 for example as that would be too small a scale to read. For a smaller house and extension a bigger scale of 1:500 or bigger would be easier to read.

Right so it is treated like a fraction rather than 1 meter can represent 1250 meters or more?

The smaller the scale then the smaller the representation of the real thing is.

eg 1:1 scale the drawing would be as big as the house
1:2 the drawing would be smaller at half the size of the house
1:72 (common Airfix model size)  drawing would be even smaller

etc etc

Section62

user1168934 said:

stuart45 said:

What it means is that it can't be 1:2500 for example as that would be too small a scale to read. For a smaller house and extension a bigger scale of 1:500 or bigger would be easier to read.

Right so it is treated like a fraction rather than 1 meter can represent 1250 meters or more?

Yes, a scale is effectively a fraction - the larger the denominator the smaller the amount.  Some people will refer to a scale of (say) 1:50 as 'one fiftieth scale'.

A 'larger' scale is one which is closer to 1:1 (or in some cases larger than real-life), a 'smaller' scale is one which represents a greater reduction in size from real-life to the drawing/map.

stuart45

Pick a scale that fits on an A4 sheet and gets all the detail in, without being so small that it's difficult to read. 

user1168934

Thanks everyone for your help. In think 1:100 would fit nicely on an A4. Before I draw up the plan I suppose I should go back to my uni and ask for a refund on the engineering degree