Section 75- toy not as described

Jenni_D

Actually, consumer law does provide the option of a partial refund. It's in the section regarding Final Right To Reject and is termed as a Price Reduction. (CRA 2015 s.24)

Whether that directly fits the OP's situation is another matter.

RogerBareford

Alderbank said:

I disagree because these most certainly are toys and they are not just aimed at people 18+

The OP himself used the word 'toy' in the title. To be fair to Smyth's, their description says 'Age Suitability: 18 Years+' and includes 'Designed for adult LEGO builders'

Yes i realise the OP described it as a toy. I was replying to the poster who said it wasn't a toy and described it as a model.

arthurfowler said:

RogerBareford said:

Lip_Stick said:

diinozzo said:

As none of the F1 2022 cars have stopped being developed yet your toy will have no chance of being an accurate representation. It's a Lego toy car and as such their interpretation of it...you could maybe argue it's not a full size replica perhaps!

It's not a toy (and I suspect you well know that). It's aimed at adult hobbyists 18+ where kits for them reach hundreds of pounds. Model, is the more appropriate term for the kit.

I disagree because these most certainly are toys and they are not just aimed at people 18+

I'm not saying their is anything wrong with adults playing with toys but i certainly don't think this can be catergorised as a model when they primarily use lego blocks that push fit together which limits the design accuracy compared to a tradiotional model where they will prioritise accuracy of the induvidual parts over easy of assembling them without any tools, glue, fasteners etc.

Maybe not 'just' aimed at adults, but certainly Lego themselves have this model in their 18+ section. I think you would be surprised by just how many adults construct lego. 

https://www.lego.com/en-gb/categories/age-18-plus-years?filters.i0.key=categories.id&filters.i0.values.i0=fc77028c-e984-4dfe-b698-4423f69ee663

I know several adults myself who build Lego so i'm not surprised because many adults play with toys in one form or another.

diinozzo

f.castle said:

Lip_Stick said:

diinozzo said:

As none of the F1 2022 cars have stopped being developed yet your toy will have no chance of being an accurate representation. It's a Lego toy car and as such their interpretation of it...you could maybe argue it's not a full size replica perhaps!

It's not a toy (and I suspect you well know that). It's aimed at adult hobbyists 18+ where kits for them reach hundreds of pounds. Model, is the more appropriate term for the kit.

Thanks, you have articulated the point a lot better than me. 

IT'S A TOY CAR!

Thread title:-

Section 75- toy not as described

...who typed that?

born_again

f.castle said:

Hi all,

I’ve bought the Lego Technic Maclaren F1 car 2022 and used a credit card, it was well over £100.
it is advertised as the 2022 car and yes it is a Lego Technic model so I expected it to be abit more accurate compared to the 2022 car.

It is actually a mash up of the 2021 and 2022 car.

A casual builder won’t care but I think this is misleading packaging and advertising due to some of the issues on the build eg incorrect suspension, incorrect wheel width, incorrect sponsor details.

If I section 75- goods not as described/ not a good enough replica, I’d like a partial refund as I am partially satisfied with the goods.

Do I have a case?

thanks

As far as S75 Goes. Simple answer is no.

Would get thrown out straight away. You have not tried to resolve with retailer. It's also a "Replica" not a true to life model. 

>>The LEGO Technic McLaren Formula 1 Race Car celebrates McLaren’s iconic papaya livery carried on the MCL35M race cars throughout the 2021 F1 season, while also providing an interpretation of the new-look 2022 F1 race cars as the sport heads into an era of refreshed regulations.<<

Manxman_in_exile

I can understand the OP's dissatisfaction with the product and they might be entitled to a full refund.

Where I'm more doubtful is that they seem to be wanting their cake and to eat it as well(?).  I think if they aren't satisfied with the authenticity of the product then they should try to return it for a full refund.  I think if I were the retailer I'd dismiss straight away the idea of a partial refund in return for the OP keeping it.  If I were the retailer I think I'd be saying: "If you aren't happy with it, hand it back and we'll refund in full."  I'd want to see just how dissatisfied the OP is... 

f.castle

diinozzo said:

f.castle said:

Lip_Stick said:

diinozzo said:

As none of the F1 2022 cars have stopped being developed yet your toy will have no chance of being an accurate representation. It's a Lego toy car and as such their interpretation of it...you could maybe argue it's not a full size replica perhaps!

It's not a toy (and I suspect you well know that). It's aimed at adult hobbyists 18+ where kits for them reach hundreds of pounds. Model, is the more appropriate term for the kit.

Thanks, you have articulated the point a lot better than me. 

IT'S A TOY CAR!

Thread title:-

Section 75- toy not as described

...who typed that?

If should have worded it better with model. 

mattyprice4004

Why would you jump straight to S75 rather than talking to the retailer? 

RogerBareford

f.castle said:

diinozzo said:

f.castle said:

Lip_Stick said:

diinozzo said:

As none of the F1 2022 cars have stopped being developed yet your toy will have no chance of being an accurate representation. It's a Lego toy car and as such their interpretation of it...you could maybe argue it's not a full size replica perhaps!

It's not a toy (and I suspect you well know that). It's aimed at adult hobbyists 18+ where kits for them reach hundreds of pounds. Model, is the more appropriate term for the kit.

Thanks, you have articulated the point a lot better than me. 

IT'S A TOY CAR!

Thread title:-

Section 75- toy not as described

...who typed that?

If should have worded it better with model. 

But it's still a toy. You have bought a Lego toy which shows a picture on the box of what you will end up making. If you arn't happy with what it will look like then you can send it back for a refund. You certainly don't have any right to a partial refund.

Like i said it's designed to be made from Lego bricks that push together without any tools so they arn't going to be able to exactly replicate the exact appearance of the car with that big limitation.

diinozzo

f.castle said:

diinozzo said:

f.castle said:

Lip_Stick said:

diinozzo said:

As none of the F1 2022 cars have stopped being developed yet your toy will have no chance of being an accurate representation. It's a Lego toy car and as such their interpretation of it...you could maybe argue it's not a full size replica perhaps!

It's not a toy (and I suspect you well know that). It's aimed at adult hobbyists 18+ where kits for them reach hundreds of pounds. Model, is the more appropriate term for the kit.

Thanks, you have articulated the point a lot better than me. 

IT'S A TOY CAR!

Thread title:-

Section 75- toy not as described

...who typed that?

If should have worded it better with model. 

...then why complain when you are accurately quoted? Read what you type please. You yourself called it a TOY and not a model.

jon81uk

RogerBareford said:

f.castle said:

diinozzo said:

f.castle said:

Lip_Stick said:

diinozzo said:

As none of the F1 2022 cars have stopped being developed yet your toy will have no chance of being an accurate representation. It's a Lego toy car and as such their interpretation of it...you could maybe argue it's not a full size replica perhaps!

It's not a toy (and I suspect you well know that). It's aimed at adult hobbyists 18+ where kits for them reach hundreds of pounds. Model, is the more appropriate term for the kit.

Thanks, you have articulated the point a lot better than me. 

IT'S A TOY CAR!

Thread title:-

Section 75- toy not as described

...who typed that?

If should have worded it better with model. 

But it's still a toy. You have bought a Lego toy which shows a picture on the box of what you will end up making. If you arn't happy with what it will look like then you can send it back for a refund. You certainly don't have any right to a partial refund.

Like i said it's designed to be made from Lego bricks that push together without any tools so they arn't going to be able to exactly replicate the exact appearance of the car with that big limitation.

This is the only really relevant thing. If you aren't happy then return it to the store for a refund. Assuming you bought online then you have an easy route for a return, although if you have opened it the retailer may reduce the amount refunded due to excess handling.