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  • GDB2222
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    star133 said:
    they will just have to wait on the DoV and developers know about this more than most as it is their systems that caused most of the problems in the first place - unless it is you buying the new house (which I don't think it is??) then this person shouldn't have your number so just ignore it 
    How long does a deed of variation take ? I know it was put in ( or whatever it was that needed doing ) around 3 weeks ago 
    It could come through any day, or it could take months. It would have been better to get this done before you started marketing the property, when there was no time pressure. 

    It’s simply prudent that the builder has put their property back on the market. 
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • star133
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    GDB2222 said:
    star133 said:
    they will just have to wait on the DoV and developers know about this more than most as it is their systems that caused most of the problems in the first place - unless it is you buying the new house (which I don't think it is??) then this person shouldn't have your number so just ignore it 
    How long does a deed of variation take ? I know it was put in ( or whatever it was that needed doing ) around 3 weeks ago 
    It could come through any day, or it could take months. It would have been better to get this done before you started marketing the property, when there was no time pressure. 

    It’s simply prudent that the builder has put their property back on the market. 

    With all due respect , I have absolutely no idea what I’m doing and I’m not aware of all of the legal steps involved with selling. I haven’t ever sold a house before so I was unaware that this was something that needed doing before we got to this stage. My solicitor is responsible and I feel very let down by her as she would be aware that this would need doing asap. 
  • Tiglet2
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    star133 said:
    GDB2222 said:
    star133 said:
    they will just have to wait on the DoV and developers know about this more than most as it is their systems that caused most of the problems in the first place - unless it is you buying the new house (which I don't think it is??) then this person shouldn't have your number so just ignore it 
    How long does a deed of variation take ? I know it was put in ( or whatever it was that needed doing ) around 3 weeks ago 
    It could come through any day, or it could take months. It would have been better to get this done before you started marketing the property, when there was no time pressure. 

    It’s simply prudent that the builder has put their property back on the market. 

    With all due respect , I have absolutely no idea what I’m doing and I’m not aware of all of the legal steps involved with selling. I haven’t ever sold a house before so I was unaware that this was something that needed doing before we got to this stage. My solicitor is responsible and I feel very let down by her as she would be aware that this would need doing asap. 

    I'm unclear as to whether the Deed of Variation is needed for your sale or your purchase.  It is possible that your buyer's solicitor spotted some defect in the lease and has asked for the DoV to alter the terms of the lease to more favourable terms.  Similarly, your solicitor may have made enquiries of a similar nature on your purchase.  Sometimes a DoV is needed where parts of the lease are missing or perhaps to extend the lease, or change/remove a restriction on the lease.

    Either way, I don't think you would know about this in advance, particularly if your property was a new build and you bought through the developer's recommended solicitor.  I am not sure how any lay person would be prepared for this before they marketed the property, so please don't stress about it.

    Unfortunately, as the DoV needs approval by the leaseholder's solicitor, the freeholder's solicitor and possibly another third party, it can take a while to obtain the final signed version. 

    As others have suggested, don't answer the phone to the sales co-ordinator, let her deal with your solicitor/agent and advise them you do not want the co-ordinator to contact you any more with her bullying tactics.
  • Flugelhorn
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    I wonder if it is a DoV on the property they are selling as it was a new build, quite a few are needing this over "estate charges" and management companies, often not apparent that they are needed until the purchaser's mortgage company highlights it 
  • Thrugelmir
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    edited 24 February 2022 at 10:09AM
    star133 said:
    The sales coordinator has nothing to do with your sale / purchase and really shouldn't have had your phone number ?!?

    I would just ignore if they call again and let it go to voice mail - you are paying solicitors to take that grot, you don't have to 
    The sales coordinator has been very aggressive and horrible over the course of a few phone calls. Even though she herself has had direct response from my solicitor she still feels the need to phone me and to put further presser on me. 
    How did she obtain your telephone number? 
  • star133 said:
    The sales coordinator has nothing to do with your sale / purchase and really shouldn't have had your phone number ?!?

    I would just ignore if they call again and let it go to voice mail - you are paying solicitors to take that grot, you don't have to 
    The sales coordinator has been very aggressive and horrible over the course of a few phone calls. Even though she herself has had direct response from my solicitor she still feels the need to phone me and to put further presser on me. 
    How did she obtain your telephone number? 
    I don’t actually know how she has my phone number , one of the first calls I had with her she had highlighted that she couldn’t get my correct solicitor and after I spoke with my solicitor it turns out she had been having contact with another branch of the solicitors. 
  • Tiglet2 said:
    star133 said:
    GDB2222 said:
    star133 said:
    they will just have to wait on the DoV and developers know about this more than most as it is their systems that caused most of the problems in the first place - unless it is you buying the new house (which I don't think it is??) then this person shouldn't have your number so just ignore it 
    How long does a deed of variation take ? I know it was put in ( or whatever it was that needed doing ) around 3 weeks ago 
    It could come through any day, or it could take months. It would have been better to get this done before you started marketing the property, when there was no time pressure. 

    It’s simply prudent that the builder has put their property back on the market. 

    With all due respect , I have absolutely no idea what I’m doing and I’m not aware of all of the legal steps involved with selling. I haven’t ever sold a house before so I was unaware that this was something that needed doing before we got to this stage. My solicitor is responsible and I feel very let down by her as she would be aware that this would need doing asap. 

    I'm unclear as to whether the Deed of Variation is needed for your sale or your purchase.  It is possible that your buyer's solicitor spotted some defect in the lease and has asked for the DoV to alter the terms of the lease to more favourable terms.  Similarly, your solicitor may have made enquiries of a similar nature on your purchase.  Sometimes a DoV is needed where parts of the lease are missing or perhaps to extend the lease, or change/remove a restriction on the lease.

    Either way, I don't think you would know about this in advance, particularly if your property was a new build and you bought through the developer's recommended solicitor.  I am not sure how any lay person would be prepared for this before they marketed the property, so please don't stress about it.

    Unfortunately, as the DoV needs approval by the leaseholder's solicitor, the freeholder's solicitor and possibly another third party, it can take a while to obtain the final signed version. 

    As others have suggested, don't answer the phone to the sales co-ordinator, let her deal with your solicitor/agent and advise them you do not want the co-ordinator to contact you any more with her bullying tactics.
    I believe the DOV is to do with my sale , as this is also a new build ( now 5 years old ) 
  • GDB2222
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    I wonder if it is a DoV on the property they are selling as it was a new build, quite a few are needing this over "estate charges" and management companies, often not apparent that they are needed until the purchaser's mortgage company highlights it 
    I rather assumed it would be something like that. It’s standard now for lenders to want it, and it’s worth getting started with that straight away. 
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Thrugelmir
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    star133 said:
    star133 said:
    The sales coordinator has nothing to do with your sale / purchase and really shouldn't have had your phone number ?!?

    I would just ignore if they call again and let it go to voice mail - you are paying solicitors to take that grot, you don't have to 
    The sales coordinator has been very aggressive and horrible over the course of a few phone calls. Even though she herself has had direct response from my solicitor she still feels the need to phone me and to put further presser on me. 
    How did she obtain your telephone number? 
    I don’t actually know how she has my phone number , one of the first calls I had with her she had highlighted that she couldn’t get my correct solicitor and after I spoke with my solicitor it turns out she had been having contact with another branch of the solicitors. 
    Then ring her employer and lodge an official complaint. Such unprofessional conduct deserves what it gets. 
  • GDB2222
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    star133 said:
    Tiglet2 said:
    star133 said:
    GDB2222 said:
    star133 said:
    they will just have to wait on the DoV and developers know about this more than most as it is their systems that caused most of the problems in the first place - unless it is you buying the new house (which I don't think it is??) then this person shouldn't have your number so just ignore it 
    How long does a deed of variation take ? I know it was put in ( or whatever it was that needed doing ) around 3 weeks ago 
    It could come through any day, or it could take months. It would have been better to get this done before you started marketing the property, when there was no time pressure. 

    It’s simply prudent that the builder has put their property back on the market. 

    With all due respect , I have absolutely no idea what I’m doing and I’m not aware of all of the legal steps involved with selling. I haven’t ever sold a house before so I was unaware that this was something that needed doing before we got to this stage. My solicitor is responsible and I feel very let down by her as she would be aware that this would need doing asap. 

    I'm unclear as to whether the Deed of Variation is needed for your sale or your purchase.  It is possible that your buyer's solicitor spotted some defect in the lease and has asked for the DoV to alter the terms of the lease to more favourable terms.  Similarly, your solicitor may have made enquiries of a similar nature on your purchase.  Sometimes a DoV is needed where parts of the lease are missing or perhaps to extend the lease, or change/remove a restriction on the lease.

    Either way, I don't think you would know about this in advance, particularly if your property was a new build and you bought through the developer's recommended solicitor.  I am not sure how any lay person would be prepared for this before they marketed the property, so please don't stress about it.

    Unfortunately, as the DoV needs approval by the leaseholder's solicitor, the freeholder's solicitor and possibly another third party, it can take a while to obtain the final signed version. 

    As others have suggested, don't answer the phone to the sales co-ordinator, let her deal with your solicitor/agent and advise them you do not want the co-ordinator to contact you any more with her bullying tactics.
    I believe the DOV is to do with my sale , as this is also a new build ( now 5 years old ) 
    It may help with the stress if you find out exactly what is going on. Otherwise, you have no way to answer any questions. 
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
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