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Parking ticket with no photographic evidence.

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  • Umkomaas
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    My appeal was refused by Initial Parking on the grounds stated in their appeal reply letter dated 25th October

    2021 (see Image 4).

    Is that date correct?  If so it looks too late to be appealing to POPLA. 

    Please clarify. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Danny30
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    edited 23 February 2022 at 10:43AM
    Umkomaas said:

    My appeal was refused by Initial Parking on the grounds stated in their appeal reply letter dated 25th October

    2021 (see Image 4).

    Is that date correct?  If so it looks too late to be appealing to POPLA. 

    Please clarify. 
    @umkomaas No, sorry for the confusion, well spotted. I'm still within the period to go to POPLA. Forgot to edit date when copying over letter. Will edit and have to give another once over.
  • Umkomaas
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    edited 23 February 2022 at 10:59AM
    So have you received a notice to keeper (NtK) in the post from the PPC? If not, don't go rushing that POPLA appeal. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Danny30
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    edited 23 February 2022 at 12:12PM
    Umkomaas said:
    So have you received a notice to keeper (NtK) in the post from the PPC? If not, don't go rushing that POPLA appeal. 
    @Umkomaas It was a windscreen ticket for this ticket ticket (picture posted earlier in thread). Nothing has been received by post. First appeal was online and rejection was received via email.
  • 1505grandad
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    "My appeal was refused by Initial Parking on the grounds stated in their appeal reply letter dated 25th October"

    Please clarify which ppc  -  Initial Parking and Spring Parking are being stated.
  • Danny30
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    1505grandad said:
    "My appeal was refused by Initial Parking on the grounds stated in their appeal reply letter dated 25th October"

    Please clarify which ppc  -  Initial Parking and Spring Parking are being stated.
    I apologise, I was at work so didn't have time to edit should all be fixed now. The operator is spring parking.

    Wondering if there is anything else I can add to strengthen the appeal and hope the appeal I posted is all relevant to a windscreen ticket without a NTK letter.
  • Umkomaas
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    Just forget about rushing a POPLA appeal right now. Did you study the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, first post, about why, with a windscreen ticket, you should delay your first appeal (which you seem to have already submitted) to the parking company until around day 25/26. 

    Please tell us you fully understand the reasoning, and the strategy, for that. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Danny30
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    edited 23 February 2022 at 4:13PM
    Umkomaas said:
    Just forget about rushing a POPLA appeal right now. Did you study the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, first post, about why, with a windscreen ticket, you should delay your first appeal (which you seem to have already submitted) to the parking company until around day 25/26. 

    Please tell us you fully understand the reasoning, and the strategy, for that. 
    @Umkomaas I sent it around day 22 for some silly reason. I know, I should have waited and rushed for some reason.

    The reason is to give them less time to prepare a defence. I hope I haven't messed it all up now.
  • KeithP
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    Danny30 said:
    Umkomaas said:
    Just forget about rushing a POPLA appeal right now. Did you study the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, first post, about why, with a windscreen ticket, you should delay your first appeal (which you seem to have already submitted) to the parking company until around day 25/26. 

    Please tell us you fully understand the reasoning, and the strategy, for that. 

    The reason is to give them less time to prepare a defence. I hope I haven't messed it all up now.
    No, the reason for delaying to day 25/26 is to avoid reminding them to send a NtK until it is too late to for them send one.

    By appealing earlier, you are actually prompting them to send a NtK.
  • Danny30
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    edited 24 February 2022 at 9:21AM
    KeithP said:
    Danny30 said:
    Umkomaas said:
    Just forget about rushing a POPLA appeal right now. Did you study the NEWBIES FAQ Announcement, first post, about why, with a windscreen ticket, you should delay your first appeal (which you seem to have already submitted) to the parking company until around day 25/26. 

    Please tell us you fully understand the reasoning, and the strategy, for that. 

    The reason is to give them less time to prepare a defence. I hope I haven't messed it all up now.
    No, the reason for delaying to day 25/26 is to avoid reminding them to send a NtK until it is too late to for them send one.

    By appealing earlier, you are actually prompting them to send a NtK.
    So I messed this one up. Assuming I get sent a NTK now, do I still have a reasonable shot with POPLA? 
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