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Royal Mail barcoding stamps - existing stamps valid only until 31 Jan 2023

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  • NBLondon
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    The Royal Mail used to state "

    Stamps without a specified monetary value are described as Non Value Indicator (NVI) and are typically first and second class stamps. These do not have an expiry date, therefore can be used regardless of the length of time you’ve had them.

    And those are exactly the ones that they are offering to exchange for a barcoded equivalent.  So no loss - whatever you paid for them, you will still have something to prove you pre-paid for the same service of delivering a letter. 
    I need to think of something new here...
  • comeandgo
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    NBLondon said:
    The Royal Mail used to state "

    Stamps without a specified monetary value are described as Non Value Indicator (NVI) and are typically first and second class stamps. These do not have an expiry date, therefore can be used regardless of the length of time you’ve had them.

    And those are exactly the ones that they are offering to exchange for a barcoded equivalent.  So no loss - whatever you paid for them, you will still have something to prove you pre-paid for the same service of delivering a letter. 
    But I have stamps with 1st and 2nd on them from over ten years ago.  Will I get what was the face value then, or a first class stamp at todays value?
  • cx6
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    Nobody knows, but I would expect a 1st stamp to be exchanged for a  new barcoded 1st stamp.
  • soolin
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    comeandgo said:
    NBLondon said:
    The Royal Mail used to state "

    Stamps without a specified monetary value are described as Non Value Indicator (NVI) and are typically first and second class stamps. These do not have an expiry date, therefore can be used regardless of the length of time you’ve had them.

    And those are exactly the ones that they are offering to exchange for a barcoded equivalent.  So no loss - whatever you paid for them, you will still have something to prove you pre-paid for the same service of delivering a letter. 
    But I have stamps with 1st and 2nd on them from over ten years ago.  Will I get what was the face value then, or a first class stamp at todays value?
    I’m assuming my 1st and  2nd class will be exchanged for new barcoded 1st and 2nd class,I would be upset if they tried to give me back the monetary value of what I paid at the time, as that is not like for like. 
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  • custardy
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    edited 9 February 2022 at 5:32PM
    The Royal Mail used to state "

    Stamps without a specified monetary value are described as Non Value Indicator (NVI) and are typically first and second class stamps. These do not have an expiry date, therefore can be used regardless of the length of time you’ve had them.

    But as I can see the nit pickers here will not be happy with this.

    Finally when I say the Post Office.....that's the building in my town which incised in stone above the front door says "Post Office"......

    I now know why I don't bother visiting this forum....


    So which is it?
    You quote RM and still say Post Office. 
    They will still be valid. You simply have to exchange them for current format.
    You are obviously sadly missed when choosing not to visit here.
  • custardy
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    comeandgo said:
    NBLondon said:
    The Royal Mail used to state "

    Stamps without a specified monetary value are described as Non Value Indicator (NVI) and are typically first and second class stamps. These do not have an expiry date, therefore can be used regardless of the length of time you’ve had them.

    And those are exactly the ones that they are offering to exchange for a barcoded equivalent.  So no loss - whatever you paid for them, you will still have something to prove you pre-paid for the same service of delivering a letter. 
    But I have stamps with 1st and 2nd on them from over ten years ago.  Will I get what was the face value then, or a first class stamp at todays value?
    You are getting your stamps exchanged. 
    Its a 'swap out' scheme
  • veryintrigued
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    edited 9 February 2022 at 9:47PM
    Brywalker said:
    One upside is that it might curtail the sale of counterfeit ones on Ebay. 
    It's an interesting point.

    Take this listing for instance.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284636471504?hash=item4245a7e0d0:g:zVUAAOSwj6Vh-t4A

    If these are genuine you're paying £0.35 for each (£0.85) first class stamp.

    At the buyback stage commences you wonder:

    - if these are genuine will the Royal Mail really allow a profit of 50p per stamp?

    - if these aren't genuine and the Royal Mail spot this will the sender get into trouble (as well as receiving nothing back)
  • cx6
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    you can be certain RM will spot them

    Probably not get 'in trouble' but they will be destroyed
  • cx6 said:
    you can be certain RM will spot them

    Probably not get 'in trouble' but they will be destroyed
    And of course it will be the buyers losing out (I have empathy for the naive ones who bought in good faith - I had to do some digging to find that the phrases most of these listings use means they're not legal for postage) not the sellers.  As always!  (We lose out already because the hundreds of thousands of fakes surely factor into the price rises every year.)
  • soolin
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    edited 10 February 2022 at 8:58AM
    cx6 said:
    you can be certain RM will spot them

    Probably not get 'in trouble' but they will be destroyed
    And of course it will be the buyers losing out (I have empathy for the naive ones who bought in good faith - I had to do some digging to find that the phrases most of these listings use means they're not legal for postage) not the sellers.  As always!  (We lose out already because the hundreds of thousands of fakes surely factor into the price rises every year.)
    Some listings specifically say these cannot be used for postage ( ie they are fakes), but the listing linked to is selling as though they are legal stamps.

    I do actually wonder if it is a fake listing on a dodgy account so nothing will be sent, although it seems a lot of bother for £4.25.
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