Royal Mail barcoding stamps - existing stamps valid only until 31 Jan 2023

custardy

StartledJesus said:

Finally received replacement stamps today Thursday 5th May, having submitted my form on 4th April, and first followed up 10th April. But only then because RM sent me a letter stating that they were sending me 0 stamps with a value of £0!

No delivery outlay repayment due, as the stamps value was < £200

Comments

The stamps are larger than previous.
I would call the code a QR code, rather than a bar code.
I cannot tell without peeling a self adhesive stamp off, but it almost looks like the code piece is separate from the stamp.  

The stamps are 1 piece

NBLondon

custardy said:

The stamps are 1 piece

Wonder why there is the printed line then?  To make it easier for printing set up?  I have already seen one idiot online announcing that she will cut off the barcode bit so she can't be tracked.  

Money_Grabber13579

NBLondon said:

custardy said:

The stamps are 1 piece

Wonder why there is the printed line then?  To make it easier for printing set up?  I have already seen one idiot online announcing that she will cut off the barcode bit so she can't be tracked.  

All that will achieve is invalidating the stamp and ensure that the recipient gets a surcharge!

NBLondon

Money_Grabber13579 said:

NBLondon said:

custardy said:

The stamps are 1 piece

Wonder why there is the printed line then?  To make it easier for printing set up?  I have already seen one idiot online announcing that she will cut off the barcode bit so she can't be tracked.  

All that will achieve is invalidating the stamp and ensure that the recipient gets a surcharge!

Yup - that's what I told her...  

Olinda99

Tell her to throw the stamp bit away and just use the barcode bit on the envelope.

anotheruser

petersy said:

anotheruser said:

petersy said:

molerat said:

It would have been  nice to get books back but you sent in 1st class stamps and got 1st class stamps back.  Just tear them off in strips of 4 x 2 and fold in half into a booklet, simples.

I think you've missed the point.

We purchased booklets from the RM website (which is what we paid for and what we wanted) and now through no fault of our own we have to change what we originally purchased with no recourse. Would you accept this with any other product purchased online? I doubt it.

No, you purchased stamps.
How they're transported or stored is irrelevant.

I buy a product online.
How it arrives or method of arrival is of no concern to me (obviously so long as the product isn't damaged).

You won't see it like that because you're desperate for books but it's just one of those things.  You're not missing out, so just manage as best you can with the sheets and go back to buying books.

We purchased books of stamps and we expected books of stamps back.

If you bought a new red car from a dealer and they delivered a green one, I suppose you would be happy with that.

Just because you don't use books of stamps, don't assume that others don't want them.

You purchase stamps.
The method of how they are stored is irrelevant.

If I purchased a green car that was due to come on the back of one of those multi-car carriers but it arrived on the back of a low loader instead, I wouldn't care - I still have the green car.

You purchased stamps, you got stamps in return.
You did not purchase 1st Class stamps and got a different product (like 2nd Class stamps) in return.

If I purchased a green car, that is the product and I expect a green car.
If a red one arrives, I am not receiving the product I bought.

The stamp books are not the product, the stamps are.
I appreciate sheets are not ideal (I have had my books back on sheets too!), but I store all my stamps in a little tub anyway so just split the stamps along the perforated lines and they al fit in the tub, better than the books did I should add.

I'm sorry you won't see it the way nearly everyone else does but there is NOTHING that you can do to change the fact of what you have.

NBLondon

Europe E stamps are both £1.85 at todays rates. So is a Worldwide Postcard.

Worldwide 40g is £2.55

petersy

anotheruser said:

petersy said:

anotheruser said:

petersy said:

molerat said:

It would have been  nice to get books back but you sent in 1st class stamps and got 1st class stamps back.  Just tear them off in strips of 4 x 2 and fold in half into a booklet, simples.

I think you've missed the point.

We purchased booklets from the RM website (which is what we paid for and what we wanted) and now through no fault of our own we have to change what we originally purchased with no recourse. Would you accept this with any other product purchased online? I doubt it.

No, you purchased stamps.
How they're transported or stored is irrelevant.

I buy a product online.
How it arrives or method of arrival is of no concern to me (obviously so long as the product isn't damaged).

You won't see it like that because you're desperate for books but it's just one of those things.  You're not missing out, so just manage as best you can with the sheets and go back to buying books.

We purchased books of stamps and we expected books of stamps back.

If you bought a new red car from a dealer and they delivered a green one, I suppose you would be happy with that.

Just because you don't use books of stamps, don't assume that others don't want them.

You purchase stamps.
The method of how they are stored is irrelevant.

If I purchased a green car that was due to come on the back of one of those multi-car carriers but it arrived on the back of a low loader instead, I wouldn't care - I still have the green car.

You purchased stamps, you got stamps in return.
You did not purchase 1st Class stamps and got a different product (like 2nd Class stamps) in return.

If I purchased a green car, that is the product and I expect a green car.
If a red one arrives, I am not receiving the product I bought.

The stamp books are not the product, the stamps are.
I appreciate sheets are not ideal (I have had my books back on sheets too!), but I store all my stamps in a little tub anyway so just split the stamps along the perforated lines and they al fit in the tub, better than the books did I should add.

I'm sorry you won't see it the way nearly everyone else does but there is NOTHING that you can do to change the fact of what you have.

Yes, we have to put up with a different product from that which we originally purchased.

It's a con.

Doc_N

petersy said:

anotheruser said:

petersy said:

anotheruser said:

petersy said:

molerat said:

It would have been  nice to get books back but you sent in 1st class stamps and got 1st class stamps back.  Just tear them off in strips of 4 x 2 and fold in half into a booklet, simples.

I think you've missed the point.

We purchased booklets from the RM website (which is what we paid for and what we wanted) and now through no fault of our own we have to change what we originally purchased with no recourse. Would you accept this with any other product purchased online? I doubt it.

No, you purchased stamps.
How they're transported or stored is irrelevant.

I buy a product online.
How it arrives or method of arrival is of no concern to me (obviously so long as the product isn't damaged).

You won't see it like that because you're desperate for books but it's just one of those things.  You're not missing out, so just manage as best you can with the sheets and go back to buying books.

We purchased books of stamps and we expected books of stamps back.

If you bought a new red car from a dealer and they delivered a green one, I suppose you would be happy with that.

Just because you don't use books of stamps, don't assume that others don't want them.

You purchase stamps.
The method of how they are stored is irrelevant.

If I purchased a green car that was due to come on the back of one of those multi-car carriers but it arrived on the back of a low loader instead, I wouldn't care - I still have the green car.

You purchased stamps, you got stamps in return.
You did not purchase 1st Class stamps and got a different product (like 2nd Class stamps) in return.

If I purchased a green car, that is the product and I expect a green car.
If a red one arrives, I am not receiving the product I bought.

The stamp books are not the product, the stamps are.
I appreciate sheets are not ideal (I have had my books back on sheets too!), but I store all my stamps in a little tub anyway so just split the stamps along the perforated lines and they al fit in the tub, better than the books did I should add.

I'm sorry you won't see it the way nearly everyone else does but there is NOTHING that you can do to change the fact of what you have.

Yes, we have to put up with a different product from that which we originally purchased.

It's a con.

It must really upset you when you’ve left a deposit on something and get back banknotes with different serial numbers…..

BooJewels

Well, it upset Paddington - he gave the bank teller a hard stare.  And we all know how that works out.

I'm truly not getting this 'con' perspective.  When you buy a postage stamp, that is the visible receipt that you've paid the appropriate fee for the conveyance of an item of mail from point A to point B.  When you send your soon to be outdated form of receipts [stamps] in, they exchange them for a new format of visible receipt, which will still allow for the same conveyance of an item of mail from A to B.  How can that be a con?

I can only assume that you bought your stupendously large amount of stamps for purposes slightly outside their intended remit, so this exchange is somehow curtailing your activity or profitability. That's hardly Royal Mails fault.