Securing wardrobe to wall

tony3619

Hey 

I have a plasterboard wall with no studs behind ( dob and Dab) and I need to secure quite a talk IKEA wardrobe to the wall. 

Personally I hate drilling into walls as you never know about pipes and wirea so I prefer to use self drilling wall plugs as this can be done manually so less force to go into wires etc. 

Will these types of wall plugs to suitable for this? I was planning on using 4 overall but they say for light use only. 

KeithP

Holding a floor standing wardrobe against a wall is light use.
There will be no vertical weight on the fixings.

tacpot12

My advice is: 

1. Buy a stud finder that can electrical cables and metal water pipes.
2. Use Corefix fixings in Dot and Dab walls if you have a heavy load. 

I would tend to agree with KeithP's assertion that a floor standing wardrobe should be a light-duty application. Your would have to be very unlucky for anything to happen where light-duty fixings would fail in this application. 

tony3619

tacpot12 said:

My advice is: 

1. Buy a stud finder that can electrical cables and metal water pipes.
2. Use Corefix fixings in Dot and Dab walls if you have a heavy load. 

I would tend to agree with KeithP's assertion that a floor standing wardrobe should be a light-duty application. Your would have to be very unlucky for anything to happen where light-duty fixings would fail in this application. 

Thanks for the reply. 

I was thinking a fixing more like this....it says each one holds 20 kg of weight so would 4 of these take the pulling weight of furniture? I'm hoping to avoid anything that I can't manually secure. 

My biggest worry is plastic central heating piping that isn't detected by a stud finder.

 

[Deleted User]

Hi,

why do you need to secure the wardrobe to the wall?

Is it wonky self build or the floor not level?

tony3619

[Deleted User] said:

Hi,

why do you need to secure the wardrobe to the wall?

Is it wonky self build or the floor not level?

It's an IKEA tall unit which says it need securing to the wall. It's on carpet and underlay so floor may appear uneven 

[Deleted User]

Hi,

wouldn't bother with fixings, get it into position and a wee wedge under the front corners, if needed.

Wardrobe not the kinda thing you bang into, unless after a good night out, or very enthusiastic bedroom gymnastics.

grumbler

tony3619 said:

tacpot12 said:

My advice is: 

1. Buy a stud finder that can electrical cables and metal water pipes.
2. Use Corefix fixings in Dot and Dab walls if you have a heavy load. 

I would tend to agree with KeithP's assertion that a floor standing wardrobe should be a light-duty application. Your would have to be very unlucky for anything to happen where light-duty fixings would fail in this application. 

I was thinking a fixing more like this....it says each one holds 20 kg of weight so would 4 of these take the pulling weight of furniture? I'm hoping to avoid anything that I can't manually secure. 


 

This fixings aren't long enough for dot&dab. You'll still have to drill into the brick or block.

My biggest worry is plastic central heating piping that isn't detected by a stud finder.

CH pipes have to be pretty predictable. So have to be the wires, especially near the ceiling.

And if a CH pipe is there you can feel it by the temperature of the wall when the CH is on.

tony3619

grumbler said:

tony3619 said:

tacpot12 said:

My advice is: 

1. Buy a stud finder that can electrical cables and metal water pipes.
2. Use Corefix fixings in Dot and Dab walls if you have a heavy load. 

I would tend to agree with KeithP's assertion that a floor standing wardrobe should be a light-duty application. Your would have to be very unlucky for anything to happen where light-duty fixings would fail in this application. 

I was thinking a fixing more like this....it says each one holds 20 kg of weight so would 4 of these take the pulling weight of furniture? I'm hoping to avoid anything that I can't manually secure. 


 

This fixings aren't long enough for dot&dab. You'll still have to drill into the brick or block.

My biggest worry is plastic central heating piping that isn't detected by a stud finder.

CH pipes have to be pretty predictable. So have to be the wires, especially near the ceiling.

And if a CH pipe is there you can feel it by the temperature of the wall when the CH is on.

Sorry i thought these self drilling plugs hold at the back of the plasterboard rather than in the wall? I'm trying not to have to drill into the wall. 

Thanks I'll try the temperature of the wall thingy. 

grumbler

tony3619 said:

grumbler said:

tony3619 said:

tacpot12 said:

My advice is: 

1. Buy a stud finder that can electrical cables and metal water pipes.
2. Use Corefix fixings in Dot and Dab walls if you have a heavy load. 

I would tend to agree with KeithP's assertion that a floor standing wardrobe should be a light-duty application. Your would have to be very unlucky for anything to happen where light-duty fixings would fail in this application. 

I was thinking a fixing more like this....it says each one holds 20 kg of weight so would 4 of these take the pulling weight of furniture? I'm hoping to avoid anything that I can't manually secure. 


 

This fixings aren't long enough for dot&dab. You'll still have to drill into the brick or block.

My biggest worry is plastic central heating piping that isn't detected by a stud finder.

CH pipes have to be pretty predictable. So have to be the wires, especially near the ceiling.

And if a CH pipe is there you can feel it by the temperature of the wall when the CH is on.

i thought these self drilling plugs hold at the back of the plasterboard rather than in the wall? I'm trying not to have to drill into the wall. . 

They can 'self-drill' only plasterboard and hold in the plasterboard that is, say, 12mm. Plus,say, 5mm gap for the adhesive.

I bet the plug is longer than 17mm.

tony3619

grumbler said:

tony3619 said:

grumbler said:

tony3619 said:

tacpot12 said:

My advice is: 

1. Buy a stud finder that can electrical cables and metal water pipes.
2. Use Corefix fixings in Dot and Dab walls if you have a heavy load. 

I would tend to agree with KeithP's assertion that a floor standing wardrobe should be a light-duty application. Your would have to be very unlucky for anything to happen where light-duty fixings would fail in this application. 

I was thinking a fixing more like this....it says each one holds 20 kg of weight so would 4 of these take the pulling weight of furniture? I'm hoping to avoid anything that I can't manually secure. 


 

This fixings aren't long enough for dot&dab. You'll still have to drill into the brick or block.

My biggest worry is plastic central heating piping that isn't detected by a stud finder.

CH pipes have to be pretty predictable. So have to be the wires, especially near the ceiling.

And if a CH pipe is there you can feel it by the temperature of the wall when the CH is on.

i thought these self drilling plugs hold at the back of the plasterboard rather than in the wall? I'm trying not to have to drill into the wall. . 

They can 'self-drill' only plasterboard and hold in the plasterboard that is, say, 12mm. Plus,say, 5mm gap for the adhesive.

I bet the plug is longer than 17mm.

Just so I'm understanding you correctly basically the thickness of the plaster board and the space from the brickwork will only be around 17 mm so unlike a stud wall there won't be enough room for this self drilling plug? (Which is 32mm)